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Ancient X11 scaling technology

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rwmj ◴[] No.44371126[source]
It's like the "oh no, X11 suffers from tearing video" problem that they pull out all the time. (A) I have no idea what "video tear" is and (B) I play video all the time on my crappy laptop running X11 and it seems fine for me. But can I ssh to my remote server and run emacs or another program completely transparently yet with Wayland? Nope. I do that with X11 continuously.
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kiwijamo ◴[] No.44373399[source]
I used to see it all the time on X11. I'd see it on YouTube/Firefox. I'd see it on VLC. I'd see it on MPV. Any video player, playing any fast paced video you'll see X11 struggle to keep up with drawing full frames that it'd just give up and draw half of one frame and another half of another frame and call it a day. The Intel driver luckily had an xorg.conf setting I could add to make this less of an issue -- I guess it'd turn on some internal Intel driver logic to skip frames or something else if it wasn't able to draw the entire video frame in time for display. However as soon as Debian made Wayland the default this issue 100% disappared and I no longer needed to edit a conf file to make my display work correctly. This is hands-down the singular reason I love Wayland. It just works without any faffing around as Windows, MacOS, etc has done since the mid 1990's. Wayland has achieved more in 5 years than X11 has done in the last 25 years.
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1. simoncion ◴[] No.44375351[source]
> Any video player, playing any fast paced video you'll see X11 struggle to keep up with drawing full frames that it'd just give up and draw half of one frame and another half of another frame and call it a day.

What hardware are you running on?

Among the many systems I have, I have a laptop running an Intel 945GM [0]. I don't see the behavior you're reporting even if I have it hooked up [1] to a 1080p external display. On that system, I have zero Xorg config files... it's all default settings.

I also don't see the behavior you report on any of my much more powerful systems.

[0] Integrated graphics chip released somewhere around 2006

[1] Via VGA cable!