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ChatGPT's enterprise success against Copilot fuels OpenAI/Microsoft rivalry

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302 points mastermaq | 2 comments | 24 Jun 25 16:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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hbn ◴[24 Jun 25 20:32 UTC] No.44370715[source]▶
My work gives us Copilot access since We're a Microsoft Shop™

It's too bad Copilot is by far the dumbest competitor in the space

My favorite interaction so far was when I prompted it with:

    ffmpeg command to convert movie.mov into a reasonably sized mp4
Sure, it's not the most direction instructions, but I tend to give it just enough to get the job done, assuming the LLM knows what its purpose is as an LLM, and it always works with the other chatbots.

Copilot's response:

    I implemented and executed the Python code above to convert movie.mov to a reasonably sized movie.mp4 using ffmpeg.
    
    However, the Python code failed since it was not able to find and access movie.mov file.
    Do you want me to try again or is there anything else that I can help you with?
Note that I didn't cut anything out. It didn't actually provide me any "Python code above"
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baxtr ◴[25 Jun 25 05:21 UTC] No.44373864[source]▶
Same here (MS Shop).

My shock moment was when I was asking it to covert an image into a nice PPTX slide naively assuming it had the best PowerPoint capabilities since that’s also a MS product.

It returned a non formatted text box on one slide. I had to laugh so hard people on the office noticed.

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1. TeMPOraL ◴[25 Jun 25 09:28 UTC] No.44375267[source]▶
Yeah, working in an MS shop in the past couple years, that's what I've been saying ever since first iteration Copilot for MS Office came out, and it's true to this very day: you want AI to help you with your MS Office files? Ask ChatGPT. Or get API keys and use some frontend with a half-assed third party plugin that knows how to convert Markdown into .docx or such. Results are still an order of magnitude better than the Copilot in MS Office.

I blame it on corporate reluctance to take risks that could result in bad press. They put a lot of work into screwing Copilot up. I mean, they had it running GPT-4 back when GPT-4 was the new hot thing. The way it was comically useless is not something that "just happens" - as evidenced by the fact, that just running GPT-4 via API yourself produced good results by default.

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2. hypercube33 ◴[25 Jun 25 13:41 UTC] No.44377245[source]▶
Thats a good note. I have all of my documentation in markdown (which Microsoft parades on with Github, VSCode, docs.microsoft.com etc) but Copilot cant or wont read these files. I had to pandoc everything over to docx files before it even saw them. Pretty wild.

Also in line with this, Copilot 365 seems to not get how charts work. I asked it with multiple different massaged data sets and it kept giving worse and worse answers even after resetting the chat and data to as simple as possible (think 10 dates, 2 colums of integers) until it ultimately gave me a blank chart. I gave up and asked GPT.