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    ChatGPT's enterprise success against Copilot fuels OpenAI/Microsoft rivalry

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    302 points mastermaq | 11 comments | 24 Jun 25 16:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.809s | source | bottom
    1. Zaylan ◴[25 Jun 25 08:43 UTC] No.44374989[source]▶
    The biggest issue with Copilot might not be the model itself, but the naming strategy. One name is used for several completely different products, and users end up totally confused. You think you're using GitHub Copilot, but it's actually M365 Copilot, and you don't even get to choose the model. Microsoft really needs to make this clearer.
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    2. meindnoch ◴[25 Jun 25 08:58 UTC] No.44375071[source]▶
    >Microsoft really needs to make this clearer.

    LOL. We're talking about the company that used to slap a non-sensical .NET suffix on everything.

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    3. antupis ◴[25 Jun 25 09:09 UTC] No.44375146[source]▶
    You probably are not a customer as a decision maker in a big traditional company/organization. MS is obfuscating on purpose so they can say in sales decks that if you buy this, you get all these copilots and your Fortune 1000 business is AI-proof. What they are left out is that not every copilot is equal.
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    4. KoolKat23 ◴[25 Jun 25 09:13 UTC] No.44375164[source]▶
    That's a good point.

    And us plebs working for the company are left to deal with the inferior tool.

    Insert "No, We have copilot at home children" meme here.

    5. aydyn ◴[25 Jun 25 09:38 UTC] No.44375338[source]▶
    Have you ever used copilot? Its Garbage with a capital G. I dont think its even as useful as GPT 3.
    6. zirgs ◴[25 Jun 25 09:44 UTC] No.44375361[source]▶
    And now it slaps "xbox" on everything.
    7. LiamPowell ◴[25 Jun 25 09:57 UTC] No.44375444[source]▶
    This worked very well for IBM Watson.
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    8. prepend ◴[25 Jun 25 10:22 UTC] No.44375604[source]▶
    And they’ve renamed Office pretty much every year so I’m not even sure what it’s called any more, Microsoft Life or something.

    It’s so strange that they keep renaming because Office (and office.com) is perfectly usable.

    9. echelon ◴[25 Jun 25 12:42 UTC] No.44376634{3}[source]▶
    "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" is a quote your grandparents used.

    What doesn't work anymore for IBM still certainly works for Oracle and the rest of the sales-driven tech giants.

    10. mrweasel ◴[25 Jun 25 12:59 UTC] No.44376801[source]▶
    For some reason I had also gotten the impression that Copilot was powered by OpenAI in some way. Perhaps the Microsoft OpenAI partnership gave me that impression.

    I also wasn't aware that there where an OpenAI/Microsoft rivalry, I had the impression that Microsoft put a lot of money into OpenAI and that ChatGPT ran on Azure, or was at least available as an offering via Azure.

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    11. AlanYx ◴[25 Jun 25 14:32 UTC] No.44377800[source]▶
    Copilot is powered by a Microsoft-hosted version of OpenAI's models. If you ask it, it says "I'm based on GPT-4, a large language model developed by OpenAI. Specifically, you're chatting with Microsoft Copilot, which integrates GPT-4 with additional tools and capabilities like web browsing, image understanding, and code execution to help with a wide range of tasks."

    OpenAI's models are also available via Azure.