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Subsecond: A runtime hotpatching engine for Rust hot-reloading

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217 points varbhat | 1 comments | 24 Jun 25 18:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.315s | source
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majke ◴[25 Jun 25 06:40 UTC] No.44374247[source]▶
About structs:

https://docs.rs/subsecond/0.7.0-alpha.1/subsecond/index.html...

  "In practice, frameworks that implement subsecond patching properly will throw out the old state and thus you should never witness a segfault due to misalignment or size changes. Frameworks are encouraged to aggressively dispose of old state that might cause size and alignment changes."
I don't think "throwing out the old state" is a sensible recommendation. "re-instancing" is called "update/upgrade/downgede of internal state" in OTP:

https://www.erlang.org/docs/24/man/gen_server#Module:code_ch...

Perhaps I'm missing something, maybe subsecond is a good tool for toy apps or for a developer workflow. But for anything serious, I'd think that managing layout of structs is a primary concern.

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1. jkelleyrtp ◴[25 Jun 25 07:12 UTC] No.44374421[source]▶
It’s a developer tool to speed up rust iteration, not a production tool like erlang.

That being said, bevy is using bevy-reflect to implement proper struct hot-reloading between hot-patches.