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Fun with uv and PEP 723

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619 points deepakjois | 1 comments | 24 Jun 25 18:41 UTC | HN request time: 0.372s | source
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ACAVJW4H ◴[24 Jun 25 20:14 UTC] No.44370555[source]▶
finally feels like Python scripts can Just Work™ without a virtualenv scavenger hunt.

Now if only someone could do the same for shell scripts. Packaging, dependency management, and reproducibility in shell land are still stuck in the Stone Ages. Right now it’s still curl | bash and hope for the best, or a README with 12 manual steps and three missing dependencies.

Sure, there’s Nix... if you’ve already transcended time, space, and the Nix manual. Docker? Great, if downloading a Linux distro to run sed sounds reasonable.

There’s got to be a middle ground simple, declarative, and built for humans.

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bigstrat2003 ◴[24 Jun 25 20:27 UTC] No.44370667[source]▶
> Packaging, dependency management, and reproducibility in shell land are still stuck in the Stone Ages.

IMO it should stay that way, because any script that needs those things is way past the point where shell is a reasonable choice. Shell scripts should be small, 20 lines or so. The language just plain sucks too much to make it worth using for anything bigger.

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1. johnisgood ◴[25 Jun 25 07:06 UTC] No.44374396[source]▶
I have a couple of projects consisting of around >1k lines of Bash. :) Not to bloat, but it is pretty easy to read and maintain. It is complete as well. I tested all of its functionalities and it just works(tm). Were it another language, it may have been more than just around 1k LOC, however, or more difficult to maintain. I call some external programs a lot, so I stick'd to a shell script.