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jekwoooooe ◴[] No.44371503[source]
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LastTrain ◴[] No.44371559[source]
Who knows, why should they feel obligated to supply any kind of rationale for their actions? [edit: /s]Here is the sum total of detail they have provided: “ All researchers must apply and present a researcher card, which may be obtained in Room 1000. This ensures that proper identification is on file for all individuals accessing the building to establish a legitimate business purpose. Abuse of any researcher registration to circumvent access by the general public may result in a trespass situation and a permanent ban from access to all NARA facilities.”
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goda90 ◴[] No.44371638[source]
Every aspect of government should provide the public with rationale for its actions unless providing that rationale is an actual threat to national security or an individual's freedoms. And any time they can't provide rationale for those reasons, an independent agency should review them confidentially. You can't have government by the people, for the people, of the people without accountability.
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dkjaudyeqooe ◴[] No.44372003[source]
This is the sort of bureaucratic nonsense people actually rail against.

You're assuming you'd get something truthful or informative out of that process, when in reality you'll get the opposite due to the inherit (dis)incentives.

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XorNot ◴[] No.44372744[source]
This is how Russia works. This is why the Russian government does what it does and why the people let it happen.

Because obviously nothing can ever change, so don't even try. How silly of of you citizen, to imagine even trying to fix corruption.

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1. dkjaudyeqooe ◴[] No.44372863{3}[source]
That's not what I'm talking about. It's the notion that if you get the corrupt to justify their actions that you'll somehow avoid corruption.

Fixing corruption involves people refusing to put up with corruption.

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2. XorNot ◴[] No.44384575[source]
If you keep no records, require no process, then how do you even identify if corruption is taking place?

The entire reason with we have say, double-entry book-keeping, is because it makes it substantially more difficult to engage in corrupt activities without producing a record which can be used to hold people to account for their actions.

People declare "I think it's corruption" on the internet all the time with absolutely no evidence, which itself is indistinguishable to corruption in the first place (since the favorite tool of dictators and autocrats is to "discover" corruption in their political opponents when it is convenient to do so).