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Sniffnoy ◴[] No.44362793[source]
> But add a smaller cardinal to one of the new infinities, and “they kind of blow up,” Bagaria said. “This is a phenomenon that had never appeared before.”

I have to wonder just what is meant by this, because in ZFC, a sum of just two (or any finite number) of cardinals can't "blow up" like this; you need an infinite sum. I mean, presumably they're referring to such an infinite sum, but they don't really explain, and they make it sound like it's just adding two even though that can't be what is meant.

(In ZFC, if you add two cardinals, of which at least one is infinite, the sum will always be equal to the maximum of the two. Indeed, the same is true for multiplication, as long as neither of the cardinals is zero. And of course both of these extend to any finite sum. To get interesting sums or products that involve infinite cardinals, you need infinitely many summands or factors.)

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bubblyworld ◴[] No.44363447[source]
I suspect they mean "add" in the sense of "add in an axiom asserting the existence of another cardinal". Things like consistency strength of the resulting theory seem to vary wildly depending on what other cardinals you throw into the mix (if I understood the article correctly, haven't read the paper, mea culpa).
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1. Sniffnoy ◴[] No.44368560[source]
Oh, that would make more sense, yeah.