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alkonaut ◴[] No.44366161[source]
Does anyone else live in a place where there isn't a visible "score" for how valuable you are, but rather only a "credit check" for how risky you are, which is performed if you apply for new credit (buying anything with an invoice, getting a credit card, or taking any other kind of loan)? Meaning that if you have a good income and no history of failing payments, you are basically passing the check with flying colors, and will have the same "score" as someone who has had tons of well-served credit before?

This thing where the score as in "risk" and score as in "business opportunity for lenders" is intertwined, and creates weird incentives for consumers, is that only a US thing or do any other countries have something similar?

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ch4s3 ◴[] No.44366231[source]
Credit scores aren't a score of how valuable you are, they're a score of creditworthiness or how unlikely you are to default on a loan. The largest factors are age of credit and payment history. Utilization is also a factor. Someone who occasionally misses payments and has high utilization is going to be more profitable but higher risk to lend to.
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parpfish ◴[] No.44366938[source]
Just because that’s what a scores is designed to do it doesn’t mean that’s what businesses use it for downstream.

The fact people always debate what a credit score really means suggests that there are too many factors rolled up into a single number when we should really have a few distinct sub-scales. Anybody that has made a dashboard for a ceo with a short attention span that refuses to deal with nuance and just wants to see “a number” knows this problem all too well

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ch4s3 ◴[] No.44367329[source]
I agree in general, but a credit score absolutely DOES NOT tell you how profitable someone is to lend to, and in general someone with a very high credit score is a very low margin customer.
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1. nradov ◴[] No.44367697[source]
And that's where interest rates come in. Lenders will typically make similar profit margins on all types of customers regardless of credit score. They charge lower interest rates to borrowers with high credit scores so it all evens out when averaged over a large customer base. Most lending markets are highly competitive so any major differences quickly get arbitraged away.