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ericfrederich ◴[24 Jun 25 12:39 UTC] No.44365535[source]▶
I am totally against Python tooling being written in a language other than Python. I get that C extensions exist and for the most part Python is synonymous with CPython.

I think 2 languages are enough, we don't need a 3rd one that nobody asked for.

I have nothing against Rust. If you want a new tool, go for it. If you want a re-write of an existing tool, go for it. I'm against it creeping into an existing eco-system for no reason.

A popular Python package called Pendulum went over 7 months without support for 3.13. I have to imagine this is because nobody in the Python community knew enough Rust to fix it. Had the native portion of Pendulum been written in C I would have fixed it myself.

https://github.com/python-pendulum/pendulum/issues/844

In my ideal world if someone wanted fast datetimes written in Rust (or any other language other than C) they'd write a proper library suitable for any language to consume over FFI.

So far this Rust stuff has left a bad taste in my mouth and I don't blame the Linux community for being resistant.

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1. coldtea ◴[24 Jun 25 14:00 UTC] No.44366363[source]▶
>I am totally against Python tooling being written in a language other than Python.

Cool story bro.

I'm totally against Python tooling being in dismal dissaray for 30 years I've been using the language, and if it takes some Rust projects to improve upon it, I'm all for it.

I also not rather have the chicken-and-egg dependency issue with Python tooling written in Python.

>A popular Python package called Pendulum went over 7 months without support for 3.13. I have to imagine this is because nobody in the Python community knew enough Rust to fix it. Had the native portion of Pendulum been written in C I would have fixed it myself.

Somehow the availability and wide knowledge of C didn't make anyone bother writing a datetime management lib in C and making it as popular. It took those Pendulum Rust coders.

And you could of course use pytz or dateutil or some other, but, no, you wanted to use the Rust-Python lib.

Well, when you start the project yourself, you get to decide what language it would be in.