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193 points leymed | 1 comments | 23 Jun 25 18:34 UTC | HN request time: 0.209s | source
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fuoqi ◴[23 Jun 25 20:44 UTC] No.44359889[source]▶
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matsemann ◴[23 Jun 25 20:54 UTC] No.44359974[source]▶
But the quote literally spells out it was market forces, not some instability in solar generation?

Your other comment probably got flagged because it started with a huge straw man and had multiple unwarranted jabs in it.

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shakow ◴[23 Jun 25 21:35 UTC] No.44360400[source]▶
True, but the market moves fast because renewables (or, more precisely, wind & solar) move fast.

There is not much fast trading to be done on a nuke/gas/coal/hydro powerplant ramping up or down, but there is a lot of instability (and thus market volatility) to be found in fast varying solar/wind conditions.

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stephen_g ◴[23 Jun 25 23:45 UTC] No.44361380[source]▶
That's inaccurate on the whole though, because while those big generators can't move fast, demand can move fast! Which is a difficult problem to manage in baseload grids.

Renewables just change one set of challenges for another set, at the end of the day it's all manageable.

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1. shakow ◴[24 Jun 25 09:11 UTC] No.44364217[source]▶
It is a problem in baseload grid, but this is a global issue is shared with wind/solar – unless we find a way to sync demand peaks with wind/Sun peaks, that is solved by other means of energy buffering.