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exabrial ◴[] No.44357521[source]
ahhh I wish GrapheneOS was supported on these!
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onli ◴[] No.44357566[source]
CalyxOS support Fairphones. It is a better option anyway, also supports bootloader relocking etc.
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bramhaag ◴[] No.44361786[source]
In which ways is CalyxOS "better"?

This comparison is pretty damning: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

Calyx is _not_ a hardened OS, and runs on devices with insecure hardware and firmware (like a Fairphone). Additionally, app compatibility suffers because they use microG instead of proper sandboxed Gapps, and also lacks many QoL features that guard against hostile apps (storage scopes, contact scopes, ...).

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onli ◴[] No.44363073[source]
Why would you call the Fairphone an insecure device? It has long update support and can re-lock the bootloader, which is like the one criteria ROMs like that pick as the security feature. What is your attack scenario, what your security criteria here?

microG is not a drawback, it's a proper FOSS implementation, which I vastly prefer to running Gapps in a sandbox. App compatibility has been perfect for me.

The main criteria for it to be strictly better is that you do not give root to a dev that hallucinates enemies and then send their goons to attack them. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0. It's nice that Graphene has a hardened kernel, that helps nothing if you can't trust the developer - different attack scenarios.

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UnreachableCode ◴[] No.44363603[source]
Thanks for the vid. I've been down the rabbit hole now. Looks like he departed the project though?
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1. bramhaag ◴[] No.44363835[source]
Micay did not fully leave the project [1]. AFAIK he is the only senior developer left, after their other senior developer was forcibly conscripted earlier this year [2].

[1] https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/12565-is-gos-development-sl...

[2] https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/21819-impact-of-ongoing-war...