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drjolly ◴[] No.44361936[source]
I think this is pretty consistent with the old school 1950s views of the current administration. Companies can prioritize profits over people again. Yeah, dump in the rivers, dump in the woods, just drive around in circles dumping in an empty lot. You don’t need masks- give everyone cancer and blow some shit up, maybe get some acid burns. Super-fund sites? When was the last one we had anyway- we need more of ‘em- lots more! Let’s let the kids eat the lead paint and complain of the smells wafting into their cars from the chemical, paper, etc. plants on road trips, just like the olden days!
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nerdsniper ◴[] No.44362062[source]
I wrote elsewhere:

> Please note that the CSB is not an enforcement agency - they don’t assign fault or levee fines or bring any charges or write any regulation.

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rectang ◴[] No.44362122[source]
CSB investigations still represent an objective source of truth which competes with the PR that companies put out absolving themselves of blame in the event of any mishap. Removing the CSB frees up companies to "self-regulate" and blast out bogus framings.
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monkeyelite ◴[] No.44362209[source]
> an objective source of truth

An alternative source with different incentives and culture, not an objective one.

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ordu ◴[] No.44362413[source]
Going this way we should ban the word "objective", because no knowledge can be objective, because you need a thinking subject to process raw data to create knowledge.

Going this way we'll risk to end up in a world, where there is no truth and no falsehoods. All we'll have is something in between. It would take just one small step to say that any two opinions are equal in their utility.

You know, it is like Kremlin propaganda targets idea of "independent media", pointing out that any media is not truly independent, it depends on someone or something. It gets its funding from somewhere, it is subject of some laws and of abuses of law. It needs to take into an account interests of sponsors and from those who wield power. The core message for Russians is: Kremlin propaganda can be bad, but no worse than anything else. Or it can be reworded as: anything is propaganda. Therefore you can relax and just watch news of state television, because you'll never know the truth no matter how hard you tried.

It seems to me, that you are going in the same rough direction by rejecting objectiveness.

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esseph ◴[] No.44362458{3}[source]
We are living in a post-truth world, and more specifically, a post truth country in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-truth_politics

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/informed-societies/post...

https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=14214

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ordu ◴[] No.44362585{4}[source]
Oh, it is all about dumb people who cannot navigate the current informational landscape. Or about people who relies on informational processing disabilities of others. It doesn't mean that smart people should reject the notions of truth and false.
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1. monkeyelite ◴[] No.44363011{5}[source]
I didn’t say anything about truth not existing. I said all organizations are presenting a perspective. It may contain truth, but it’s not an objective view.