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drjolly ◴[] No.44361936[source]
I think this is pretty consistent with the old school 1950s views of the current administration. Companies can prioritize profits over people again. Yeah, dump in the rivers, dump in the woods, just drive around in circles dumping in an empty lot. You don’t need masks- give everyone cancer and blow some shit up, maybe get some acid burns. Super-fund sites? When was the last one we had anyway- we need more of ‘em- lots more! Let’s let the kids eat the lead paint and complain of the smells wafting into their cars from the chemical, paper, etc. plants on road trips, just like the olden days!
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1. userbinator ◴[] No.44362018[source]
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2. vkou ◴[] No.44362033[source]
Strangely enough, I'm not seeing anyone lining up to take $3/hr jobs sewing t-shirts for sale to China.
3. 01HNNWZ0MV43FF ◴[] No.44362052[source]
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4. tehwebguy ◴[] No.44362105[source]
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5. heavyset_go ◴[] No.44362164[source]
> The US saw how China rose to dominate manufacturing, and would like to go back to being a manufacturing power again.

If that were the case, the US would be dumping trillions into spinning up manufacturing like China did.

The US has the power to do this, they did it during WWII, and like it or not, this current era requires heavy strategic investments that may not produce returns for decades, if at all. It's what China is doing and if the US were trying to compete, they'd do the same. We were getting somewhat close to this with the CHIPS Act, but that's on the chopping block[1], too.

Truth is US capital is happy to sell off manufacturing capability to cash in on cheap labor, and there is no monetary incentive to re-shore manufacturing capacity unless the government provides serious incentives or does it themselves.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act#Subseque...

6. Loughla ◴[] No.44362222[source]
You're being down voted but you're right.

Bringing manufacturing back is a stated goal of this administration.

Nevermind that you're not going to convince an American to work for Chinese wages in a sweatshop. Ignore that.

But the intended outcome of everything Dump is doing is to de-emphasize advanced education, bring back all basic manufacturing, and restore the "traditional" American values (white, straight, Christian). It's an absolutely stupid idea, but he's been pretty clear about it.

7. b00ty4breakfast ◴[] No.44362274[source]
They're gonna be sorely disappointed if they thing de-regulation is the path to bringing back some pre-lapsarian golden age of American manufacturing that didn't actually exist
8. atomicfiredoll ◴[] No.44362845[source]
My understanding from folks outside the U.S. is that they desire U.S. products because they trust the safety more. I'm not sure everyone quite understands that by gutting [regulations], they trash part of their international advantage.

I'm no expert, but even if they somehow managed to get manufacturing back, slashing your competitive advantages and just taking the market position of "China 2: This time it's more expensive" doesn't strike me as a winner for exports.

9. garte ◴[] No.44364888[source]
Biden actually tried that and bringing the country forward at the same time. It didn't pass and Republicans decried it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_New_Deal

Now they're going back 70 years instead of moving forward. Big brains there.

10. Applejinx ◴[] No.44365394[source]
I don't believe the actions being taken are really conducive to manufacturing greatness, or indeed technological greatness in any sense. I'd lump elimination of this board with elimination of obscure aviation safety committees normal people would never know about: actions that don't bear scrutiny at face value.

i.e. perhaps the whole point is that breaking these things will do damage and lower the status and functionality of the United States, making it actively worse by a considerable amount and sabotaging key structural parts normal people wouldn't even know were there.

In short, it's possible that it being bad is the point.