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firesteelrain ◴[] No.44361592[source]
Credit scores will tank further
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UltraSane ◴[] No.44361866[source]
If customers make every payment their score should improve.
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1. dh2022 ◴[] No.44361943[source]
What is the benefit for a consumer to use this type of loan and then pay it back on time versus using a credit card and then paying the card back on time?

To me this seems like a new product that would target a different consumer than the one that makes payments on time. But I would like if someone challenges this view. Thanks!

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2. loeg ◴[] No.44362029[source]
> What is the benefit for a consumer to use this type of loan and then pay it back on time versus using a credit card and then paying the card back on time?

Slightly longer repayment time frames. (Multiple months instead of just one.)

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3. firesteelrain ◴[] No.44362066[source]
It’s like layaway. Also you didn’t really need credit before to get them.
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4. UltraSane ◴[] No.44362282[source]
Lower interest because the seller pays the interest
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5. Tadpole9181 ◴[] No.44362283[source]
A CC gives 1% cash back. Your bank's savings give 4% interest. BNPL doesn't earn the cash back, but over a long term you make more in interest for some purchases.

For small puchases with short repayment periods? Not a clue.

6. dh2022 ◴[] No.44363355[source]
This sounds like a consumer that does not pay the balance each month…
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7. dh2022 ◴[] No.44363366[source]
But a lower interest expense is not relevant to a consumer that pays the balance on time…
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8. dh2022 ◴[] No.44363370[source]
I guess it would make sense for larger purchases that could not be paid within a month..,,
9. wildzzz ◴[] No.44365397{3}[source]
CC gives me 30 days to pay it back interest free. BNPL gives me 2, 3, 6, or more months with very little or even no interest. If I know I'm not going to be able to pay it off in a month, I'd rather do a BNPL loan since it's so cheap. Additionally, you can have awful or no credit and still be approved for BNPL. It may be beneficial to have some repaid loans on your credit if you ruined your credit earlier in life like this credit builder CCs that have a super low limit.
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10. UltraSane ◴[] No.44367664{3}[source]
If you put the cost on a credit card and paid it off over the same number of months you would pay a lot of interest.
11. Ancapistani ◴[] No.44368088[source]
Structuring.

I’ve used them several times, mostly because they are relatively cheap forms of credit for short durations (<12 months). I have plenty of credit available via traditional credit cards, but BNPL —- to this point —- haven’t reported usage rates to the bureaus.

Last summer our A/C went out. It ended up being about $4.5k to replace, and it was a heat emergency at the time. So I put the whole thing on Affirm for three months, at 0% interest. I paid about $50 in fees. That got us through the immediate emergency and gave me time to shop around for a better way to fund it.

I ended up taking out an auto loan with my credit union. The rates were much cheaper than a personal/unsecured loan, and I have three vehicles in the driveway without liens. The loan was for four years, but I’ve already paid it off.

In a tighter situation, BNPL not impacting your credit utilization rates is a big benefit.

12. Ancapistani ◴[] No.44368139{4}[source]
I’ll add that I’ve found that the more you use Affirm at least, the better my options get.

I started by always choosing the shortest “plan”, which was 0% and no fees. After I’d paid off a few of those, I started getting offered plans of up to a year with no interest and very minimal fees.

Now, while I don’t use Affirm for luxury/unnecessary purchases, it offers better rates than any credit card I have, and better than a bank loan in many cases.

I have three Affirm loans right now, for a total of about $8k. All three of those are business expenses, and all three have increased profit in our business significantly more than they cost us.

13. loeg ◴[] No.44368232{3}[source]
I should have specified those durations are both interest-free. If you don't pay your credit card off after one month, it accrues interest at fairly high rates.