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193 points leymed | 1 comments | 23 Jun 25 18:34 UTC | HN request time: 0.208s | source
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fuoqi ◴[23 Jun 25 20:44 UTC] No.44359889[source]▶
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matsemann ◴[23 Jun 25 20:54 UTC] No.44359974[source]▶
But the quote literally spells out it was market forces, not some instability in solar generation?

Your other comment probably got flagged because it started with a huge straw man and had multiple unwarranted jabs in it.

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fuoqi ◴[23 Jun 25 21:05 UTC] No.44360082[source]▶
Temporary negative prices have been caused by the renewable generation which exceeded the grid demand at the time, which then evolved into the nasty feedback loop caused by the reaction of renewable generation to those conditions. You simply do not get such situation with traditional generation, it's the direct consequence of the intermittent nature of renewables and its high ratio in the total generation.

Also, have you read after the market part? Please watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G4ipM2qjfw if the last quote is gibberish to you. It discusses somewhat different issues, but the point still stands.

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1. eldaisfish ◴[23 Jun 25 23:02 UTC] No.44361095[source]▶
you are correct, but your analysis is not popular here. You will soon be presented with several reasons as to why renewable energy is not the problem and how batteries are the one true solution to these problems.

The reality is that electricity is complex and that renewable energy presents a new set of problems, problems to which we do not yet have complete solutions.