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mlhpdx ◴[] No.44357730[source]
It’s very odd to think of something extremely hot but with almost no density, and therefore very little heat transfer.
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jordanb ◴[] No.44357945[source]
That's actually most of space. Space is a very hot environment, especially where we are so close to the sun. Think about it. When you stand outside in the sun you heat up. All that heat is coming from the sun. But a lot of it was filtered by the atmosphere, so if you're in space near earth it will be hotter than standing at the equator on a sunny day, in terms of radiation.

Then there's the fact that heat is very difficult to get rid of when in space. The ISS's radiators are much bigger than its solar panels. If you wanted to have a very-long eva spacesuit you'd have to have radiators much bigger than your body hanging off of it. Short evas are handled by starting the eva with cold liquids in the suit and letting them heat up.

All of the mockups of starships going to Mars mostly fail to represent where they're going to put the radiators to get rid of all the excess heat.

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hwillis ◴[] No.44359073[source]
> If you wanted to have a very-long eva spacesuit you'd have to have radiators much bigger than your body hanging off of it.

I was curious about this! The Extravehicular Mobility Units on the ISS have 8 hours of life support running on 1.42 kg of LiOH. That releases ~2 kJ per gram used, so .092 watts.

The 390 Wh battery puts out an average of 50 watts.

And the human is putting out at minimum 100 watts with bursts of 200+.

Long term it's probably reasonable to need at least 200 watts of heat rejection. That's about a square meter of most radiator, but it needs to be facing away from the station. You could put zones on the front/back and swap them depending on direction, as long as you aren't inside an enclosed but evacuated area, like between the Hubble and the Shuttle. The human body has a surface area of roughly 2 m^2 so its definitely not enough to handle it- half of that area is on your arms or between your legs and will just be radiating onto itself.

It's also not very feasible to have a sail-sized radiator floating around you. You'd definitely need a more effective radiator- something that absorbs all your heat and glows red hot to dump all that energy.

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1. HPsquared ◴[] No.44360626[source]
Or, evaporative cooling for spacewalks. Water heat of evaporation at 25°C is 678 Wh/kg, so 200W of heat is about 0.3 kg per hour. Quite manageable!

EDIT: Apparently the Apollo suits did this. An interesting detail is that they used sublimation (evaporating ice directly to vapor), because I suppose that's a lot more practical to exchange the heat.