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    Spunkie ◴[] No.44357974[source]
    Still no headphone jack makes this a nonstarter, lame.
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    1. OkayPhysicist ◴[] No.44360560[source]
    How often are you listening to music on your phone while it's charging? (because otherwise you can always just attach an adapter onto your headphones to make it USB-C). Seems like a weird hang up.
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    2. GoatInGrey ◴[] No.44360648[source]
    So when I reach the trailhead and realize that my dongle is back at home, I can still use my headphones to listen to a podcast as I hike.

    Or maybe I'm out in public with others and want them to listen to something but my dongle is at home so I now need to play audio over the speakers in a public setting.

    It comes down to having choice and not being funnelled into overpriced wireless earbuds. Which Fairphone began selling with the release of the Fairphone 4, their first phone without the jack.

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    3. OkayPhysicist ◴[] No.44360714[source]
    What else are you plugging your headphones into? Again, the pitch here is leaving the dongle basically permanently attached to the headphones, effectively turning them into a set of usb-c wired headphones. I was hesitant about abandoning the headphone jack, too, until I realized that the higher-end phones I'd effectively locked myself out of charge in 10% of the time.
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    4. interloxia ◴[] No.44360804{3}[source]
    Swap the dongle for a pd friendly y cable.
    5. Topfi ◴[] No.44361216{3}[source]
    > What else are you plugging your headphones into?

    My Macbook, my work laptop, my e-piano, my Note9, my BTR7, ...

    Don't get me wrong, I understand far too well why no new flagship offers the jack anymore and wireless/USB-C is truly amazingly convenient for the vast majority of users, even audio quality wise, but sadly we are still very far from either being universal, either because the standard is still 1/8 or 1/4 inch or latency is key (in the case of instruments both). Also, USB-C ports are finite so using the small 3.5mm port is often preferable. So just keeping the dongle plugged in, sadly not an option. Apple Dongle DACs are easily lost too, ask me how I know.

    Am very far removed from the mainstream customer and accept that in any case, my dream phone would likely bankrupt whoever was dumb enough to bankroll it, so I'll just deal with the compromise.

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    6. bigstrat2003 ◴[] No.44361609[source]
    First, that's almost all the time for me because my primary use case for listening to music is in the car. Second, adapters are not a good solution because they can easily be lost.
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    7. GrantMoyer ◴[] No.44361894[source]
    My phone is not the only device I use my ear buds with. Having to contantly attach and remove a usb-c adapter would be a complete pain in the ass. It's not just a matter of plugging it in — which would already be bad enough. I'd also need somewhere to store it, and I'd need to pack and unpack it each time. All that, or I could just buy a phone with a standard headphone port.
    8. qwe----3 ◴[] No.44362533[source]
    You shouldn't have earphones on when driving.
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    9. userbinator ◴[] No.44362854{3}[source]
    Plug the phone into the car, listen through the car's audio system.
    10. noisy_boy ◴[] No.44363038{4}[source]
    Seems like there is a market for wired headphones that have built-in split 3.5 and usb-c ends.
    11. gitaarik ◴[] No.44374449[source]
    I use a Bluetooth audio receiver in my car. It has a Jack output that you can plug into your car's amp. You connect your phone to it through Bluetooth, and then you can play music in your car. It's very convenient, because your phone automatically connects when you turn it on, and you don't have to mess with cables. They're also pretty cheap.
    12. grep_name ◴[] No.44390447[source]
    I felt like it was a weird hangup too until I realized that the lifespan of my phones has dropped to a third since that damn jack disappeared. Every single phone since then the point of failure has been a worn out / chewed up USB port.

    Turns out, when you have to use the same port for all music streaming as well as charging, you end up using that port (in my case) something like 1000% more often, and it absolutely demolishes the phone.