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New York City has this cool program that lets anyone report idling commercial vehicles and get a large cut of the fines [1]. It's been in the news recently [2].

I've filed a few reports, and I found the process frustrating and error-prone. The forms are fiddly, there's way too much information that needs to be copied down from the video by hand, you have to use a third-party app to take a timestamped video and a different app to compress it before uploading, and approximately none of it can be done on your phone — the device you probably used to record your video in the first place.

I built Idle Reporter to make filing complaints into a five-minute process that you can do entirely from your phone.

Idle Reporter uses AI to automatically extract all the required information and screenshots from the video and fill out the form for you. It compresses your video, adds the required screenshots, and uploads the whole thing to DEP. All you have to do is log in, give it a final check, and submit.

The AI features cost me money to run, so I put those behind a subscription ($5.99/month, which can pay for itself after a single report). There's a one-week free trial so you can test it out. All the other features — including a fully-featured timestamp camera, which other apps charge for, and an editor for filling out the forms manually and submitting in a single step — will be free forever, as a service to the community.

The app is iOS-only for now — part of this was an exercise in learning SwiftUI in my spare time.

Check it out on the App Store and let me know what you think!

[1]: https://www.nyc.gov/site/dep/environment/idling-citizens-air...

[2]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-city-idling-law-report...

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hiAndrewQuinn ◴[] No.44348701[source]
This is a phenomenal application of how fine-based bounties can be used to rapidly improve compliance with the law. Incredible work. I would absolutely use this if I lived in NYC; I'll recommend it to my friends there.
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raxxorraxor ◴[] No.44353736[source]
There always has been some kind of problem with any snitching app there was. I don't see how this will be different. I don't think it will see broad adoption, but there will be "power users", who usually pose a problem as well.

I hate people leaving cars idling, but I don't like any form of bounty app. This is the wrong kind of law enforcement.

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1. 12ian34 ◴[] No.44354583[source]
What's the problem? Why is this the wrong kind of law enforcement?
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2. garyfirestorm ◴[] No.44354840[source]
Because it loses nuance. If it was a meat truck trying to maintain temperature of the items while being stuck in a delivery paper work - now potentially being fined for keeping the meat at right temp!
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3. alphan0n ◴[] No.44354994[source]
Such considerations have been accounted for. [0]

> Exceptions include, but are not limited to, when an idling on-road medium/heavy-duty vehicle is: Stuck in traffic or otherwise required to remain motionless. Performing maintenance tasks or powering an auxiliary function or apparatus, such as a refrigeration unit or lift, requiring power from the primary motive engine.

[0] https://dec.ny.gov/environmental-protection/air-quality/cont...

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4. Kbelicius ◴[] No.44355159[source]
If you read a headline like this and you think to yourself "this is stupid, what if..." whatever you are thinking of has been, more than likely, covered. It just doesn't fit into the headline. As another poster already remarked, this is covered.
5. MisterTea ◴[] No.44355947[source]
The meat truck likely has a separate engine for the refrigeration unit that is more efficient that idling the vehicle engine. There are provisions for those systems in place so they are exempt.
6. singleshot_ ◴[] No.44356158[source]
Now in addition to hoping the police aren't corrupt, we have to hope this guy is not corrupt, and that everyone who uses his system isn't corrupt. Not great (but our starting point wasn't great, either).
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7. freejazz ◴[] No.44357110[source]
What does the app have to do with it? The app doesn't give fines.
8. potato3732842 ◴[] No.44357354{3}[source]
As much as I hate the cops I actually trust a cop to be a more impartial arbiter of what does and doesn't fit that definition than some snooty white collar worker who just has a snitching app on their phone.
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9. WarOnPrivacy ◴[] No.44358263{4}[source]
> I actually trust a cop to be a more impartial arbiter of what does and doesn't fit that definition than some snooty white collar worker who just has a snitching app on their phone

Arbitration is done by the NYC Dept of Environmental Protection. While it is unknown whether their workers are white collar, no evidence of snoot is manifested.

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