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krainboltgreene ◴[] No.44329303[source]
I've wasted a lot of time and energy on stuff that doesn't matter, so I can hardly judge anyone else on what they focus on, but man does it feel bad to have community leaders actively focus on building out tooling that is anti-worker. I think the only way I'd feel more conflicted is if Fly.io started building weapons systems for the military. I guess that wouldn't be shocking considering some of their lead's beliefs.
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mrkurt ◴[] No.44329862[source]
It's safe to say that if either Chris or I believed this to be anti worker, we wouldn't be working on it. He's spent the last 10+ years working on Phoenix specifically to improve the lives of the people doing the work.

My experience with software development is maybe different than yours. There's a massive amount of not-yet-built software that can improve peoples' lives, even in teeny tiny ways. Like 99.999% of what should exist, doesn't.

Building things faster with LLMs makes me more capable. It (so far) has not taken work away from the people I work with. It has made them more capable. We can all build better tools, and faster than we did 12 months ago.

Automation is disruptive to peoples' lives. I get that. It decreases the value of some hard earned skills. Developer automation, in my life at least, has also increased the value of other peoples' skills. I don't believe it's anti worker to build more tools for builders.

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jonator ◴[] No.44330090[source]
Exactly. And as more software is written, the demand and possible set of softwares increase.

It's really a matter of positive sum/growth mindset vs scarcity/status quo mindset.

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1. hooverd ◴[] No.44344174[source]
Maybe, but it's zero sum to the people with money. We saw wage growth in the lowest end during the Biden admin and it drove the bosses insane.