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YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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990 points smitop | 10 comments | 20 Jun 25 17:01 UTC | HN request time: 1.087s | source | bottom
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akersten ◴[21 Jun 25 01:03 UTC] No.44333609[source]▶
Thank you for your important work fighting this battle, it must be exhausting.

The more Google insists on forcing advertising on us, the more we should look closely at the wildly inappropriate and downright scammy ads they are hosting. If they can't leave well enough alone and look the other way on ad blocking, (which is the only way to avoid exposing myself and family to these dangerous ads), they need to be under a lot more scrutiny for the ads they choose to run.

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yugioh3 ◴[21 Jun 25 01:22 UTC] No.44333722[source]▶
people deserve to get paid for the work they put into creating content and building platforms, no? books, movies, tv shows, news, etc, are all distributed in some way or another that costs the consumer either money or their time viewing advertising. if you don't want to watch ads, pay YouTube for a subscription.
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mitthrowaway2 ◴[21 Jun 25 01:38 UTC] No.44333777[source]▶
YouTube spent about a decade and a half running unintrusive banner ads. Until they secured enough of the market that network effects locked content creators and consumers together in a two-sided market where it's hard for either group to leave unilaterally. Then they ramped up the length and intrusiveness of their ads while flouting content regulations on what they're even allowed to advertise.

Why should I reward that by paying them?

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hombre_fatal ◴[21 Jun 25 02:11 UTC] No.44333907[source]▶
You can keep bringing up Google, but you're still glossing over the part where you're not paying the people creating the content you're watching.

Seems awfully convenient.

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1. efdee ◴[21 Jun 25 08:13 UTC] No.44335672[source]▶
I'm very much willing to pay for their content, but not in the way of watching ads during the videos.
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2. chii ◴[21 Jun 25 09:10 UTC] No.44335952[source]▶
Your individual willingness is irrelevant.

There are not enough people with your willingness to make this mechanism work by itself.

So the choice is either to have the content exist, but rely on ads, or not have the content exist. And it's not your choice - it's the content creator's choice.

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3. notpushkin ◴[21 Jun 25 11:48 UTC] No.44336785[source]▶
If it’s not my choice, then there’s no problem if I block the ads, right?
4. hombre_fatal ◴[21 Jun 25 14:27 UTC] No.44337867[source]▶
Youtube Premium has existed for 10 years and creators get paid from it.
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5. lokar ◴[21 Jun 25 15:39 UTC] No.44338375[source]▶
Do you happen to know if they get the same amount per view?
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6. ta1243 ◴[21 Jun 25 16:09 UTC] No.44338612{3}[source]▶
> YouTube channels earn revenue from viewers with YouTube Premium. Throughout this month (August 2018), I earned approximately 55p per 1000 regular views and 94p per 1000 Premium views, so it appears that if 75% of your viewers went Premium, that would actually be beneficial.

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/9agg5f/how_does_yo...

> Per user, creators usually get a LOT more from premium than ads. If I divide my monthly views by my monthly unique viewers, I get about 1.9 cents per viewer.

> The way premium works is, first youtube takes a cut--I believe it's 45%. The remaining amount is divided among all the creators you watch based on how much you watch them. I believe that's based on view time.

> So if the YT premium price is $13.99, the creators get 55% or $7.69. You would have to watch 405 different creators for each one to get 1.9 cents.

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/16c80eb/how_do_you...

7. aprilthird2021 ◴[21 Jun 25 19:16 UTC] No.44340019[source]▶
So you do pay for YouTube Premium then? Or are we not going to hear back from you?
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8. lxgr ◴[22 Jun 25 16:18 UTC] No.44348118[source]▶
You can pay for Youtube Premium right now and the ads go away.

For a long time, my criticism was that Youtube Premium is needlessly bundled with Youtube Music, which is redundant for me as a Spotify user and which I refused to pay for accordingly.

Now, in at least a few countries, there's "Youtube Premium Lite", which is basically regular Youtube but without ads. If you live in one of these, in my view that's close to the ideal scenario: Everybody gets to choose between watching ads and paying.

9. efdee ◴[23 Jun 25 11:16 UTC] No.44354499[source]▶
Weird. I'm pretty sure that deciding whether or not to watch ads is entirely my choice.
10. efdee ◴[23 Jun 25 11:19 UTC] No.44354525[source]▶
I used to, but I don't consume enough YouTube videos anymore to make it worthwhile. Give me a top-up plan that I can use to pay for individual videos and I will definitely do it.

But what's with the weirdly aggressive second part of your message?