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tlogan ◴[] No.44333733[source]
Why do we justify blocking ads, even when we know the content we’re consuming isn’t free to create and even if the content is free, it still costs money to store and distribute?

We often rationalize using ad blockers because ads can be intrusive or annoying. But let’s asking ourselves: Why do we feel entitled to get this for free?

This isn’t a moral judgment. I genuinely want to understand the reasoning.

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whatshisface ◴[] No.44334026[source]
You're asking the question in a way that's unreflective of how people think. They can do it and want to do it and would need a reason to not do it. So the question is, what would make someone feel like they were ethically compelled to watch an advertisement? It sounds impossible to me, maybe someone with a very unique perspective could chime in about themselves.

Here's an attempt at a double-negative answer: you can't be ethically compelled into an unethical contract, and since advertisements are manipulative, voyeuristic and seek to take advantage of the limitations of human attentional control, it's a priori impossible for watching an ad or downloading a tracker to ever be ethically compulsory.

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zdragnar ◴[] No.44334074[source]
There's a very simple answer.

You want to watch some content. The content provider offers you two options: pay and get no ads, or watch for free and also sit through some ads.

You are not obligated to watch ads. You are opting to watch them in exchange for the free content, then skipping out on a commitment you volunteered for while still taking the free content.

The "unethical contact" argument is bullshit, because you made a choice but didn't live up to it. Instead of either paying or not watching, you watched anyway.

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throwaway31094 ◴[] No.44334174[source]
Do the less fortunate not deserve to have access to culture and information without being subjected to the psychological abuse that is advertising?
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1. zdragnar ◴[] No.44334207[source]
If they can't afford a YouTube subscription, they're not going to be buying anything that would be advertised anyway.

Let's be honest here, ads are trying to get you to buy things, but "psychological abuse" is a pretty extreme hyperbole, especially for people already in such tight poverty. They've got enough going on that someone trying to get them to buy shitty knives or switch their car insurance isn't going to be impactful.

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2. throwaway31094 ◴[] No.44334309[source]
> Let's be honest here, ads are trying to get you to buy things

The issue is that those are not the only ads Youtube is showing to people. You can basically upload any video and make it an ad. Sometimes Youtube's moderation fails and some nasty stuff slips through the cracks:

> In the latest incident, a Redditor describes how their young nephew was exposed to an explicit ad while watching a Fortnite stream by the well-known YouTuber Loserfruit.

> “My 7yr nephew was watching Loserfruit (Fortnite streamer) and then came up to me asking what Loserfruit is doing because this ad started playing,” the concerned uncle shared.

Source: https://www.androidauthority.com/youtube-explicit-ads-proble...

Hell, they'll show weight loss ads to people with eating disorders - and this one might just be intentional rather than a failure of Youtube's moderation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckeatingdisorders/comments/18gx1v... (Just one example but it's not hard to find more)

"Psychological abuse" is very much not hyperbole in the worst case scenarios. And as an extra bonus, Youtube promotes scam ads as well:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39117360

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3. e44858 ◴[] No.44334425[source]
This seems to be a very big problem for YouTube:

  “In 2023, we blocked or removed over 5.5 billion ads, slightly up from the prior year, and suspended 12.7 million advertiser accounts, nearly double from the previous year,” the platform told us at the time.
I wonder what proportion of those 5.5 billion inappropriate ads were removed only after people watched and reported them.
4. debugnik ◴[] No.44335004[source]
> ads are trying to get you to buy things

Are they? The last time I made the mistake of watching youtube without an ad blocker I got served US right-wing propaganda. I live in Spain, always have, and Google knows enough about me to know I'd despise that content.

5. wiseowise ◴[] No.44335458[source]
Have you tried watching YouTube in the west without Adblock or YouTube premium?

Psychological abuse doesn’t even begin to describe experience.

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6. zdragnar ◴[] No.44339840[source]
I have. It was mostly the usual nonsense- overpriced kitchen knives, stupid phone games, car insurance, clothes, that sort of thing.

Nothing about anything I saw rose even close to the level of psychological abuse.

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7. wiseowise ◴[] No.44340380{3}[source]
Showing multiple ads across a couple of minutes video and at least one add at the start is not a psychological abuse to you? I'm not binge watching YouTube anymore, and I have premium, but this is borderline insane. Imagine EVERY action that you do is being monetized and you're literally prevented from doing anything while the ad is showing.
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8. jama211 ◴[] No.44366462{4}[source]
“Literally prevented from doing anything” - well this is a complete lie, so we can ignore the rest of what you said.
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9. wiseowise ◴[] No.44373564{5}[source]
Excuse me? You can somehow watch video through the ad?
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10. jama211 ◴[] No.44390349{6}[source]
You said “doing anything”. Read your own comment…