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    octo888 ◴[] No.44315842[source]
    My desire to visit the US just went sub zero.

    The worst part is this has the possibility to spread to other countries (that the US can twist the arm of) because they want to extend their policies further.

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    1. xtracto ◴[] No.44318495[source]
    Right, just freaking stop going there. Americans have made it loud and clear (by voting with majority) that they don't like outsiders.

    Stop going to the US. Is it pretty? There are way better places on earth. Is it fun? There are way funnier places ok earth. There's no reason to submit to all that degrading behavior.

    Good riddance. Let the. Keep their decadent country to themselves until it crumbles.

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    2. mig39 ◴[] No.44318846[source]
    I'm Canadian. Before Trump, I made several trips a year to the USA. all my vacation money was spent there. Now I go to Europe every summer instead.

    Meanwhile, I recently received a survey from some industry association in the USA asking what it would take for me to return to travelling in the USA. Like asking a bunch of questions about accommodations, travel, flights, etc. Without even mentioning the obvious.

    Do Americans not know how they are perceived in the rest of the world?

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    3. soared ◴[] No.44319153[source]
    To be clear, at this point the majority of Americans do not support the current administration. So blaming it on the American government is more apt.
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    4. jampekka ◴[] No.44319761[source]
    Majority supports the immigration agenda though.
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    5. quantified ◴[] No.44320168{3}[source]
    That's not clear. The problems and the agenda don't align. Majority definitely supports fixing the problems, but the political leadership clearly supports keeping things dysfunctional. Remember that the US Congress was ready to pass legislation to solve before the last election, and Trump made them stop it so he could campaign on the problems.
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    6. quantified ◴[] No.44320203[source]
    As an American, I can only believe it because I know the dipshts that got elected. I wouldn't come here. This is all a real wtf.

    Note that in the pre-social media era, this particular bs would not be possible.

    7. phire ◴[] No.44320558[source]
    The majority voted for this government... They don't get to wash their hands of it just because some people later changed their minds.
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    8. tempaccount420 ◴[] No.44321579[source]
    If a little less than half the people on the street hated you, would you feel comfortable walking that street?
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    9. overfeed ◴[] No.44321761[source]
    > To be clear, at this point the majority of Americans do not support the current administration

    At the very least, the majority of Americans certainly condoned the current administration at the polling booth - or couch. The Trump campaign can't be accused of not being up-front with its agenda.

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    10. sbelskie ◴[] No.44322022{3}[source]
    A plurality of those who voted, you mean.
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    11. overfeed ◴[] No.44322169{4}[source]
    Choosing not to vote when you're eligible is a statement in itself - which why I referred to the couch.
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    13. jampekka ◴[] No.44322942{4}[source]
    About half support more raids and more ICE.

    37% approve illegal deportations to El Salvador. Not a majority, but a shoking approval for literally illegal, both domestically and internationally, operations. General Trump disapproval is barely over 50%. These reflect a widespread rot in the culture, not just a rogue administration.

    https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/17/americans-ha...

    14. lcnPylGDnU4H9OF ◴[] No.44323184{3}[source]
    Not even a majority of voters, let alone the whole population, voted for the current President.
    15. msgodel ◴[] No.44323202[source]
    Yup. When we said there were problems 10-20 years ago it would have been good to have a nuanced discussion about immigration. Now we have this instead.

    There are plenty of other countries to immigrate too, at this point many are probably better than the US. Stop bothering us and let us work our problems out.

    16. bdcravens ◴[] No.44323733[source]
    While I feel like many across the world realize this, unfortunately it doesn't make them any safer while they're here. Moreover, the most extreme haters of outsiders feel empowered by the current regime, adding to the risk.
    17. ◴[] No.44324061[source]