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darqis ◴[] No.44317373[source]
when I started coding at the age of 11 in machine code and assembly on the C64, the dream was to create software that creates software. Nowadays it's almost reality, almost because the devil is always in the details. When you're used to write code, writing code is relatively fast. You need this knowledge to debug issues with generated code. However you're now telling AI to fix the bugs in the generated code. I see it kind of like machine code becomes overlaid with asm which becomes overlaid with C or whatever higher level language, which then uses dogma/methodology like MVC and such and on top of that there's now the AI input and generation layer. But it's not widely available. Affording more than 1 computer is a luxury. Many households are even struggling to get by. When you see those what 5 7 Mac Minis, which normal average Joe can afford that or does even have to knowledge to construct an LLM at home? I don't. This is a toy for rich people. Just like with public clouds like AWS, GCP I left out, because the cost is too high and running my own is also too expensive and there are cheaper alternatives that not only cost less but also have way less overhead.

What would be interesting to see is what those kids produced with their vibe coding.

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dist-epoch ◴[] No.44317699[source]
> This is a toy for rich people

GitHub copilot has a free tier.

Google gives you thousands of free LLM API calls per day.

There are other free providers too.

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guappa ◴[] No.44317868[source]
1st dose is free
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infecto ◴[] No.44318058[source]
LLM APIs are pretty darn cheap for most of the developed worlds income levels.
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guappa ◴[] No.44318209[source]
Yeah, because they're bleeding money like crazy now.

You should consider how much it actually costs, not how much they charge.

How do people fail to consider this?

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1. infecto ◴[] No.44318435[source]
>You should consider how much it actually costs, not how much they charge. How do people fail to consider this?

Sure, nobody can predict the long-term economics with certainty but companies like OpenAI already have compelling business fundamentals today. This isn’t some scooter startup praying for margins to appear; it’s a platform with real, scaled revenue and enterprise traction.

But yeah, tell me more about how my $200/mo plan is bankrupting them.