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Andrej Karpathy: Software in the era of AI [video]

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1479 points sandslash | 10 comments | 19 Jun 25 00:33 UTC | HN request time: 1.774s | source | bottom
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bgwalter ◴[19 Jun 25 10:36 UTC] No.44317261[source]▶
I'd like to hear from Linux kernel developers. There is no significant software that has been written (plagiarized) by "AI". Why not ask the actual experts who deliver instead of talk?

This whole thing is a religion.

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1. diggan ◴[19 Jun 25 10:44 UTC] No.44317326[source]▶
What counts as "significant software"? Only kernels I guess?
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2. xvilka ◴[19 Jun 25 11:06 UTC] No.44317466[source]▶
Office software, CAD systems, Web Browsers, the list is long.
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3. rwmj ◴[19 Jun 25 11:07 UTC] No.44317470[source]▶
Can you point to any significant open source software that has any kind of significant AI contributions?

As an actual open source developer I'm not seeing anything. I am getting bogus pull requests full of AI slop that are causing problems though.

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4. diggan ◴[19 Jun 25 11:20 UTC] No.44317563[source]▶
> Can you point to any significant open source software that has any kind of significant AI contributions?

No, but I haven't looked. Can you?

As an actual open source developer too, I do get some value from replacing search engine usage with LLMs that can do the searching and collation for me, as long as they have references I can use for diving deeper, they certainly accelerate my own workflow. But I don't do "vibe-coding" or use any LLM-connected editors, just my own written software that is mostly various CLIs and chat-like UIs.

5. diggan ◴[19 Jun 25 11:23 UTC] No.44317583[source]▶
Microsoft (famously developing somewhat popular office-like software) seems to be going in the direction of almost forcing developers to use LLMs to assist with coding, at least going by what people are willing to admit publicly and seeing some GitHub activity.

Google (made a small browser or something) also develops their own models, I don't think it's far fetched to imagine there is at least one developer on the Chrome/Chromium team that is trying to dogfood that stuff.

As for Autodesk, I have no idea what they're up to, but corporate IT seems hellbent on killing themselves, not sure Autodesk would do anything differently so they're probably also trying to jam LLMs down their employees throats.

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6. bgwalter ◴[19 Jun 25 11:38 UTC] No.44317667{3}[source]▶
Microsoft is also selling "AI", so they want headlines like "30% of our code is written by AI". So they force open source developers to babysit the tools and suffer.

It's also an advertisement for potential "AI" military applications that they undoubtedly propose after the HoloLens failure:

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/13/23402195/microsoft-us-ar...

The HoloLens failure is a great example of overhyped technology, just like the bunker busters that are now in the headlines for overpromising.

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8. e3bc54b2 ◴[19 Jun 25 16:17 UTC] No.44320046{3}[source]▶
'forcing' anybody to do anything means they don't like doing it, usually because it causes them more work or headache or discomfort.

You know, the exact opposite of what AI providers are claiming it does.

9. sensanaty ◴[19 Jun 25 18:59 UTC] No.44321474{3}[source]▶
> Microsoft

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44050152

Very impressive indeed, not a single line of any quality to be found despite them forcing it on people.

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10. diggan ◴[20 Jun 25 11:10 UTC] No.44326630{4}[source]▶
Lets not change the goalpost, parent asked for any examples of software written with LLMs, and regardless if the output is quality or not, that is one example. Besides, Microsoft isn't really known for their high code quality, so I'm not even sure using even dumb LLMs/tools like Copilot would actually have a negative effect.