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octo888 ◴[] No.44315842[source]
My desire to visit the US just went sub zero.

The worst part is this has the possibility to spread to other countries (that the US can twist the arm of) because they want to extend their policies further.

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franczesko ◴[] No.44316421[source]
USA is a beautiful place to visit and people are very hositable. I think that there's a big difference between what people do and what the state does. I do agree however, that what is happening in this country right now is deeply concerning.
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1. kashunstva ◴[] No.44316932[source]
> I think that there's a big difference between what people do and what the state does

One of most famous speeches in U.S. history talks about a government that is “of the people, by the people, for the people.” If the State behaves in a certain way, it is of the people. Many people who cast their vote for the current regime are perfectly cordial in face-to-face interactions; but nonetheless they gave their consent to these policies. There is a deeply divided plurality, of course, but I’d rather limit my visits to the U.S. regardless of its natural beauties or the hospitality of its populace, be it real or superficial. Were I a student from outside the U.S., forget it, I would never consider it a safe option for post-secondary education. The absolute risk of serious harm, I imagine, is low; but who needs this humiliation?