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__loam ◴[] No.44314220[source]
This is a gross violation of some of our most sacred principles.
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buckle8017 ◴[] No.44314475[source]
Can you be specific which principles this violates?

Historically visas could and were denied for completely arbitrary reasons.

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.44314488[source]
> Can you be specific which principles this violates?

The right to free speech. Even in its restrictive First Amendment form.

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lesuorac ◴[] No.44314512[source]
I'm not sure 1FA applies to non-US individuals on non-US soil.

Once they're in the country, sure.

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Not that I think it's been demonstrated that this policy will improve US security or etc. Wonder if the APA applies here.

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1. jkaplowitz ◴[] No.44314761[source]
The First Amendment indeed doesn’t apply to non-US individuals abroad, as much as I wish it were otherwise (and many other countries do take a more inclusive approach on such matters).

But the First Amendment does apply to the many US citizens and permanent residents who are being indirectly surveilled, profiled, and chilled in their speech as a result of the extra scrutiny of the foreign visa applicants with whom they interact and connect on social media.