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titanomachy ◴[] No.44305194[source]
“Good debugger worth weight in shiny rocks, in fact also more”

I’ve spent time at small startups and on “elite” big tech teams, and I’m usually the only one on my team using a debugger. Almost everyone in the real world (at least in web tech) seems to do print statement debugging. I have tried and failed to get others interested in using my workflow.

I generally agree that it’s the best way to start understanding a system. Breaking on an interesting line of code during a test run and studying the call stack that got me there is infinitely easier than trying to run the code forwards in my head.

Young grugs: learning this skill is a minor superpower. Take the time to get it working on your codebase, if you can.

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1. scotty79 ◴[] No.44307204[source]
What's insane is that debuggers could support at least 80-90% of print debugging workflow with a good UI.

The only thing that's really missing is history of the values of the watches you added, all in one log. With filters because why not.

For some reason I never seen this option in any debugger I tried.

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2. scotty79 ◴[] No.44365005[source]
UPDATE:

Heh, who knew, debuggers already have this feature under the name tracepoints (VS) or logpoints (Viscose).

https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2018/07/12/introducing-l...

It should be way more well known among print debug crowd.