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bjorkandkd[dead post] ◴[] No.44289491[source]
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glommer ◴[] No.44289640[source]
I am the one who hired Preston. Whatever he has done in the past, I have all the evidence in the world in front of me to assure me that he has a transformed heart. It is not a common thing to see, but here the fruits are clear.

We are happy to have him with us.

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giraffe_lady ◴[] No.44289768[source]
So you've spoken to the wife?
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ty6853 ◴[] No.44290253[source]
The vast vast majority of DV complaints are unsubstantiated, so speaking to the wife is generally a poor predictor of whether the presumption of innocence will be overcome.
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BryantD ◴[] No.44290427[source]
Cites, please? A quick skim of the literature doesn't support this and I'm dubious, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.
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ty6853 ◴[] No.44290541[source]
Here's an example in connecticut[].

DV applications: ~8800

DV ex parte granted (no chance for defendant to defend him(her)self): ~5100

DV final order granted after defendant able to defend him(her)self): ~3200

So for example in CT on just a civil standard, only 2/3 of the accusers were able to get even a temporary order when the defendant had zero chance to tell their side of the story. Once the defendant was able to come to court and defend themselves, only about 1/3 of them made it to a final order. And that was by the much weaker civil rather than criminal standard.

[] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tYBTsF7-px-3lCnBFOol...

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fwip ◴[] No.44292792[source]
Note that it's not trivial to demonstrate that a restraining order is necessary, even in cases where domestic violence has occurred and has a reasonable risk of recurring.

I understand that you're simply using this as a proxy for the actual unknowable data, but I think it's worth pointing out that the map is not the territory.

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1. ty6853 ◴[] No.44299886[source]
It is trivial in many states and jurisdictions to get a temporary order. One was obtained against David Lettermen just by a woman in a different state claiming he was sending her secret messages through the TV.

The final order is more difficult, but quite often (i.e. in divorce / custody court) the only goal was to evict them from the home and disrupt custody to get the upper hand in hearings, so temporary is all that's needed to do the job and then no need to actually defend the claim made 14+ days later when they're already homeless and with the baseline of out of the kid's life.

http://www.ejfi.org/PDF/Nestler_Letterman_TRO.pdf