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b0a04gl ◴[] No.44296183[source]
everyone saw this coming the day facebook bought it, but the real issue isn't ads in status . it's that the platform is now locked into meta's attention monetization engine. the founders explicitly said no ads. now not only ads, but paid channels, algorithmic exposure, and user segmentation creeping in. most people won't switch because of network effects, so meta can keep tightening the screws. this isn't about revenue, it's about control. they’re reshaping a private messaging tool into a broadcast platform with tracking hooks. and most users won’t even notice until it’s too embedded to undo
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phyrex ◴[] No.44297519[source]
It's been 11 years. If they hadn't been bought they'd have found a different monetization model long ago
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Crosseye_Jack ◴[] No.44297856[source]
They kinda did. Before facebook brought them, the app cost $1/£1 per year (iirc your first year was free). Thing is back then MMS and/or texts across borders was expensive, so if you were regularly sending picture messages to people the $1/£1 sub was a no brainer.

Lets wave a magic wand and presume 50% of the user base thought it was also worth $1 a year and it grew just as well as it did (It was growing very well in the UK before the takeover just by word of mouth). That's still just a messaging app that would be raking in $1.5B per year today, and that's before you bolt on any paid cosmetics or upgrades (small things that users don't mind dropping a few more bucks on).

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parthdesai ◴[] No.44298592{3}[source]
There's no way it would've gotten the adoption it did in 3rd world countries if you had to pay $1 per year.
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1. calt ◴[] No.44299048{4}[source]
Thing is, it already was getting that adoption, and network effect can largely take care of the rest. Also, some it’s tied to a real phone number, geographic price differentiation is trivial to implement.
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2. kshacker ◴[] No.44299426[source]
Ok I paid the 1 buck, or agreed to pay a year later. Those days I lived in India, and my friend kinda forced me to use whatsapp by selling it. I still remember sitting in an auto-rickshaw and downloading the app after the sales pitch :) This must have been 2012, but could it be earlier - maybe.

Point being, I agree with you, it was getting that adoption anyways, even with the fees. And within months, I was hearing this from so many others.

How do I remember? I moved back to US in Feb 2013, so it had to be before that, just can not recall the exact year and month.