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wao0uuno ◴[] No.44288283[source]
I tested meshtastic in a major european city with pretty much 100% mesh coverage and its real life performance was quite underwhelming. Often I would receive messages that I could not reply to because of differences in antenna gain and crappy mesh performance. Public chat was either completely dead or flooded with test messages. Everything was super slow because the mesh can’t actually scale that well and craps out with more than a 100 nodes. Even medium fast channel would clog up fast. I would never depend on meshtastic during an emergency because it barely works even when nobody is using it. I think a public wifi mesh would be more worthwhile. Older used wifi routers are pretty much free and in unlimited supply. They use very little power. Everyone already has a compatible client device on their pocket. Sure the mesh would fail during a total blackout but at least it would be useful for something when the power is up.
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GardenLetter27 ◴[] No.44288360[source]
Yeah, having gone through the blackout in Spain this would be really useful (using phones).

Then only one person needs a generator and/or Starlink to provide some connectivity.

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moffkalast ◴[] No.44288666[source]
It's interesting how we're generally headed towards general self sufficiency, off grid solar and wind power with batteries because the grid won't pay you to sell it electricity, mesh networks and satellite internet to get around lazy local ISPs. All we need is a field where robots grow food and we're back in the middle ages but with modern tech. We've even got tech billionaires to stand in as feudal lords and crazy right wing populists instead of inbred kings with weird chins.
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pyrale ◴[] No.44289475[source]
> It's interesting how we're generally headed towards general self sufficiency, off grid solar and wind power with batteries because the grid won't pay you to sell it electricity

The grid will definitely pay you to sell it electricity if you fulfill the industrial standards it expects.

The issue in your assessment is that the quality of service provided by someone just setting up solar panels and inverters and plugging that on the grid is the equivalent of starting a skyscraper building company based on your experience building your garden shed. It's not safe, you won't understand why, and eventually you or someone else will get hurt.

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pmontra ◴[] No.44290979[source]
I'd agree with you if I'd setup my solar panels. But if I'd ever install solar at home I'd hire a company to do all the setup. I believe that it would fulfill industry standards.
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pyrale ◴[] No.44296503[source]
It wouldn’t. Just like hiring the best pros to make an extremely fancy kitchen wouldn’t make it equivalent to a restaurant kitchen.
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1. bigfatkitten ◴[] No.44297149[source]
It does if your local regulations specifically provide for small scale generation.
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2. pyrale ◴[] No.44304956[source]
Local regulation on that topic usually revolves around easing the requirements for small scale/residential production, not around making them respect the same standards as large electricity producers.