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chatmasta ◴[] No.44289323[source]
How does the compensation work? The US prison system has a bit of a nasty reputation when it comes to exploiting prison labor, so I hope those practices aren’t carrying over into these more forward-looking types of initiative… but at the same time, surely Turso isn’t paying full SWE salary?
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glommer ◴[] No.44289601[source]
I am the Turso CEO. We pay him a full salary, just not health care benefits.
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999900000999 ◴[] No.44290171[source]
Your doing the Lord's work.

Even if you just paid him the state minimum wage, it would stop him from having a giant employment gap.

The next step would be background check reform. A DUI record isn't relevant to anything not involving driving.

Excluding a very small handful of SVU level crimes everything should be wiped clean after 5 years or so.

I had an experience with a co worker who would brag about robbing people, selling substances and when he got caught his family money made it go away. He's a CTO at a mid sized tech company now. Had he been poor he'd have a record and be lucky to work as a Walgreens clerk.

Was the biggest "tough on crime" person I've ever met. I think people with means don't understand if you don't have money you can't afford bail.

Can't afford bail you'll just be indefinitely detained without trial for months if not years.

Everything about the criminal justice system is about exploitation. Get house arrest, that's a daily monitoring fee. States like Florida are forcing released inmates to repay the state for the cost of incarceration.

It's past fixing tbh, I'm personally hopping to immigrate to a functional country soon.

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derektank ◴[] No.44290568[source]
>Excluding a very small handful of SVU level crimes everything should be wiped clean after 5 years or so.

It's nice to think that people should be able to fully pay back their debt to society but (a) criminal court proceedings need to be public in a free society and if they are public, people should be able to record and distribute the results as private citizens if we believe in upholding the principle of freedom of speech.

Even if it were possible to prevent this, (b) this does a small but not entirely negligible harm to people that never committed a crime by casting some doubt upon them. This is most apparent for minority groups that are associated with criminality; they experience worse employment prospects when the state makes criminal records unavailable.

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1. miki123211 ◴[] No.44292209[source]
Criminal records should be available, but in a controlled way.

Where I live (Poland), only the person itself can request their criminal record from the state. This is a routine procedure required by some employers, you can even do it online these days.

Most if not all criminal offenses "expire" after some years, how long depends on the offense. If there's something you've been charged with but not convicted of, it doesn't appear on the record.

This is easier to implement for us because there are limitations on how media can report on criminals (no last names for example). Even in the US, I think that system could be workable. Instead of attacking distributions of "unedited" criminal records, you'd have to target employers and require them to only acquire the state-approved versions.