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579 points todsacerdoti | 5 comments | 16 Jun 25 07:38 UTC | HN request time: 1.012s | source
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lljk_kennedy ◴[16 Jun 25 08:38 UTC] No.44287646[source]▶
> One of my nightmares is waking up one morning and discovering that the power is out, the internet is down, my cell phone doesn’t work

I dunno.... as I get older, this sounds more and more idyllic

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ndr ◴[16 Jun 25 08:40 UTC] No.44287653[source]▶
I see the sarcasm but you're likely not simulating this hard enough. This is what happened in most of Spain and Portugal during the recent power outage and it wasn't pretty.
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camillomiller ◴[16 Jun 25 08:45 UTC] No.44287686[source]▶
It also wasn't so incredibly nasty, though. There were disruptions and some arrests, but the large majority of people were in the streets socializing, dancing, doing impromptu things they wouldn't be doing on a work day.
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dewey ◴[16 Jun 25 08:49 UTC] No.44287705[source]▶
That's because they kinda expected everything to be back to normal in a few hours. If there would be some more catastrophic distributed outage there would probably be less dancing.
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AlecSchueler ◴[16 Jun 25 11:14 UTC] No.44288481[source]▶
But wait either it was "pretty" or it wasn't. We've gone from "it wasn't pretty" to "Ok, it was pretty, but only because they expected a resolution."
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closewith ◴[16 Jun 25 12:08 UTC] No.44288793[source]▶
Pretty for young and unencumbered, less so for the COPD patient with an oxygen concentrator, or the parent of an infant running out of sterile bottles, etc.
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1. goda90 ◴[16 Jun 25 14:56 UTC] No.44290204[source]▶
To sterilize a bottle you simply need boiling water without a significant amount of toxic materials in it. To get boiling water you need water, a container for the water, a combustible fuel, an ignition source, and a means of transferring heat from the burning fuel to the water. Even if you don't have a metal pot you can do stuff like heating rocks and then stacking them on cool rocks inside a plastic, glass, ceramic, wood, etc container filled with water to get to a boil.
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2. closewith ◴[16 Jun 25 16:54 UTC] No.44291258[source]▶
> Even if you don't have a metal pot you can do stuff like heating rocks and then stacking them on cool rocks inside a plastic, glass, ceramic, wood, etc container filled with water to get to a boil.

That can get you sterile water, although it's extremely difficult to do and involves many more rocks than you'd imagine easily 5x the mass of rock to water to get a rolling boil for a full minute, but it doesn't get you clean water. Now you have sterile water with a lot of potentially very unpleasant dissolved solids. Certainly not something you'll be using to feed an infant.

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3. prmoustache ◴[16 Jun 25 22:08 UTC] No.44293853[source]▶
it takes 5 minutes to build a simple but effective alcohol stove out of a soda can.
4. goda90 ◴[18 Jun 25 13:24 UTC] No.44309687[source]▶
Put the bottle in a smaller container of clean water inside the larger container of water with the top sticking out of the water so it doesn't overflow into it. It'll take longer to boil without the convection but you'll get there eventually. You can fashion tongs out of sticks to pull rocks back out after their heat has mostly transferred to the water while you put newly heated ones in.
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5. closewith ◴[18 Jun 25 13:28 UTC] No.44309730{3}[source]▶
You're romanticising the situation with nonsense solutions.