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Death of Michael Ledeen, maker of the phony case for the invasion of Iraq

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93 points nabla9 | 1 comments | 25 May 25 07:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jaybrendansmith ◴[25 May 25 16:47 UTC] No.44089027[source]▶
This is the last time I felt the power of the propaganda machine. (The most recent time was the 2024 election) It was so obvious to myself and my friends that this was completely cooked up intelligence. And yet the truth was not getting out, and had fooled many people with this strange groupthink, almost like a dumb, braying herd animal, where the collective intelligence was utterly ambushed and tied up in a sack. I don't like feeling powerless, yet I have this feeling that our voices have been smothered of late, destroyed by ridiculous talking points.
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CoastalCoder ◴[25 May 25 22:18 UTC] No.44091728[source]▶
It certainly is making me wonder about the supposed benefits of democracy.

If our votes, even those of our elected representatives, are so easily manipulated, then what's the point?

My question isn't entirely rhetorical. I'm hoping someone can talk me out of that conclusion.

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1. lm28469 ◴[26 May 25 12:48 UTC] No.44096975[source]▶
It's simple really, democracy isn't democracy if the voters aren't well informed. Also democracy is a spectrum, the "benefits of democracy" is almost meaningless if you don't define what type of democracy you're talking about.

We quickly get into the "communism was never implemented properly" type of argument too. Sure a theoretical benevolent dictator might be better than a flawed democracy, the problem is that it never happens in real life