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CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

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204 points pabs3 | 2 comments | 25 May 25 00:37 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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cedws ◴[25 May 25 21:45 UTC] No.44091469[source]▶
I don’t get it - why not just tie the ticket to a name and address at time of purchase? Then verify that matches the person using government issued ID upon entry?
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abetusk ◴[25 May 25 21:55 UTC] No.44091556[source]▶
How would you handle the following conditions?

* I buy a ticket for a friend (maybe as a present) but don't actually want to go to the concert

* I buy more than one ticket for a group of people (I'll be attending the concert)

* I buy a ticket but have to cancel at the last minute and want to give it to a friend

* I don't have an easily available government ID (maybe I never got a drivers license, maybe my drivers license expired, etc.)

* People attending the event aren't American. They will have their passports from other countries. How will you verify each passport is valid?

* The event draws of people from a majority of the 50 states in the USA, with each state having different government IDs (driver's license) with different versions of the IDs within each state. What are the logistics of validating the IDs presented?

In the base case of one ticket per individual that has a valid government ID that has their current address printed on the ID, what service are you using to validate this ID and to validate that the presenter of the ID is associated with the ID? What is the cost and how many transactions can it handle per second?

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gruez ◴[25 May 25 22:18 UTC] No.44091730[source]▶
>How would you handle the following conditions?

It doesn't, but that's fine, because it's the cost of preventing scalpers. Everyone just accepts that you can't buy a flight ticket as a present, for instance.

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abetusk ◴[26 May 25 01:10 UTC] No.44092929[source]▶
This is maybe the answer, but I'd like to at least acknowledge that this is what's being proposed: Buying tickets for shows has the same security requirements and domestic and international flights.
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sealeck ◴[26 May 25 02:22 UTC] No.44093366[source]▶
This is not the proposal. The proposal is to ensure people's names match their tickets. Additionally, I think most people at concerts support security measures that would improve their safety and avoid a rerun of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Arena_bombing
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1. Symbiote ◴[26 May 25 07:34 UTC] No.44094935[source]▶
How is checking names going to prevent terrorists with guns?

The article isn't clear (as I'm not familiar with Manchester Arena and the names of the rooms) but a man was allowed in with a bomb in a bag. Showing id (or not) wouldn't have been the problem.

(And incidentally, it's not required to show identification for flights within Europe's Schengen area.)

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2. sealeck ◴[26 May 25 15:15 UTC] No.44098268[source]▶
You have completely misread my comment; the point is that checking names would not be for security (it would be to prevent ticket scalping). As you have correctly identified, handling security threats is somewhat orthogonal to this - i.e. your claim is false. Large venues will inevitably have to introduce security screening irrespective of whether or not they match names and tickets.