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owenversteeg ◴[] No.44077762[source]
Like other people here, I have my quibbles with the exact math. But the general premise is true: yes, you can live in rural poverty for cheap. The problem is the vibes. A hundred years ago, you would have a community, a place in society, and all of your family and friends nearby. In 2025, the only actual local job the author of the piece can come up with is at a gas station.

Top ten occupations, 1920: Farmers, farm laborers, clerks, salespeople, servants (bellboys, butlers, cooks), textile workers, machinists, carpenters, and teachers. All of those jobs, even the less respected ones, had infinitely more societal respect than the common jobs hiring in rural America today - such as stocking shelves at Walmart or working at a gas station. You could be a simple farm laborer and have a wife and kids and a place in society. Today, though, a young man working at a Walmart or a gas station will struggle to attract a stable partner or the respect of the world around him.

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testing22321 ◴[] No.44081183[source]
> a young man working at a Walmart or a gas station will struggle to attract a stable partner or the respect of the world around him.

From personal experience I can tell you confidently you are wrong.

The part you are missing is you only need to work 10-20 hours a week MAX. That means you have an enormous Amount of leisure time to do what you want with your life. Trust me when I say plenty of young women love the idea of not working a lot and instead having wilderness adventures.

Want to see it for yourself? Go spend a summer in the Yukon. If you love it, stay the winter. It’s nothing short of epic.

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1. owenversteeg ◴[] No.44094039[source]
I've been the unemployed/underemployed guy having wilderness adventures with a beautiful girlfriend before. It's great (for a time.) But we're not talking about having wilderness adventures. We're talking about moving far away from anywhere you know to live in rural poverty in far upstate New York and work at a gas station in a depressed area, in a dilapidated building on land that virtually nobody wants, for good reason.

That specific solution is what the author of this piece proposed for the woes of the young people of America, not wilderness adventures or anything else.

Only on HN would I have to explain why this might affect your romantic life, but here goes. Statistically speaking, for men aged 25-54 in the US, being poor [1] nearly halves your chances of finding a partner. Chances which, I might add, are already not great, and certainly not improved by your lack of car, reliable heat, social connections et cetera.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/10/05/rising-...

[1] men earning 150% of federal poverty level for a one-person household