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AndrewOMartin ◴[] No.44075300[source]
Just make sure you don't get sick.
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Goronmon ◴[] No.44075374[source]
Also, you just need to continually scavenge for "free" water and heat.

Don't forget the free fishing rod/equipment.

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jocaal ◴[] No.44075762[source]
In the article he mentions there is a well at the house. Also blankets and wood fires are free heat.
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jeffbee ◴[] No.44075890[source]
In what way is wood free? To heat even a tiny home purpose-built for high efficiency you'd need several acres of woods to sustainably harvest. For a falling-apart $30k hovel in upstate NY you'd probably need more like 15 acres, and you don't get a 15-acre stand of woods in the deal for that price.
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dmurray ◴[] No.44077889[source]
15 acres? It should take far less than an acre. The house isn't well insulated, but it's also small. A few big trees, say 40-year Sitka spruce, should last the whole winter, and you can plant a thousand of those on an acre.

Of course it depends on the land and the house. But here's some Reddit comments also estimating the need at < 1 acre

https://www.reddit.com/r/homestead/comments/1jnpbug/how_much...

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AngryData ◴[] No.44081237[source]
As someone who has been burning wood for heat for 35 years, those people are out of their damn mind if they think 1 acre will supply them their fire wood. 1 acre will absolutely not grow enough wood to heat your home unless you are cutting it all down and moving away in a few years. It takes a decade of growth just to get a tree to the point where it is growing at a reasonable rate, it needs a root system built up before it can grow efficiently, and that root system is destroyed when you cut the tree down and the next set of trees needs to regrow it.

And even with a well managed rotating stock of trees, you are going to at best get just over half a cord per acre. And in my area which is as close to the same weather as Northern New York as it gets, I would expect they would need atleast full 3 cords of wood to make it through a mild winter, more if it is a colder winter or if no snow builds up to help insulate or if you live on an open plot where wind can blow over your house.

I wouldn't even consider trying to survive on my own tree wood unless I had at least 10 acres to harvest off of, and it would still depend on the type of trees growing there and is still kind of straddling the edge of sustainable long term.

Maybe if you went full 16th century and started coppicing the woods and maintaining bare minimum heating you could do better, but coppiced woods also takes a decade to initial establish and maintain and nobody has coppiced woods just sitting around waiting to be utilized.

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1. jeffbee ◴[] No.44081718[source]
There's also the small matter that the guy to whom you replied was suggesting that "free wood" means burning trees worth thousands of dollars each.