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Aurornis ◴[] No.44065615[source]
Some useful context from Scott Alexander's blog reveals that the authors don't actually believe the 2027 target:

> Do we really think things will move this fast? Sort of no - between the beginning of the project last summer and the present, Daniel’s median for the intelligence explosion shifted from 2027 to 2028. We keep the scenario centered around 2027 because it’s still his modal prediction (and because it would be annoying to change). Other members of the team (including me) have medians later in the 2020s or early 2030s, and also think automation will progress more slowly. So maybe think of this as a vision of what an 80th percentile fast scenario looks like - not our precise median, but also not something we feel safe ruling out.

They went from "this represents roughly our median guess" in the website to "maybe think of it as an 80th percentile version of the fast scenario that we don't feel safe ruling out" in followup discussions.

Claiming that one reason they didn't change the website was because it would be "annoying" to change the date is a good barometer for how seriously anyone should be taking this exercise.

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pinkmuffinere ◴[] No.44065741[source]
Ya, multiple failed predictions is an indicator of systemically bad predictors imo. That said, Scott Alexander usually does serious analysis instead of handwavey hype, so I tend to believe him more than many others in the space.

My somewhat native take is that we’re still close to peak hype, AI will under deliver on the inflated expectations, and we’ll head into another “winter”. This pattern has repeated multiple times, so I think it’s fairly likely based on that alone. Real progress is made during each cycle, i think humans are just bad at containing excitement

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1. sigmaisaletter ◴[] No.44067044[source]
I think you mean "somewhat naive" instead of "somewhat native". :)

But, yes, this, in my mind the peak[1] bubble times ended with the DeepSeek shock earlier this year, and we are slowly on the downward trajectory now.

It won't be slow for long, once people start realizing Sama was telling them a fairy tale, and AGI/ASI/singularity isn't "right around the corner", but (if achievable at all) at least two more technology triggers away.

We got reasonably useful tools out of it, and thanks to Zuck, mostly for free (if you are an "investor", terms and conditions apply).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner_hype_cycle