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701 points mfiguiere | 3 comments | 21 May 25 14:21 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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TZubiri ◴[21 May 25 22:51 UTC] No.44057053[source]▶
I feel this is part of a larger and very old business trend.

But do we need 20 companies copying each other and doing the same thing?

Like, is that really competition? I'd say competition is when you do something slightly different, but I guess it's subjective based on your interpretation of what is a commodity and what is proprietary.

To my view, everyone is outright copying and creating commodity markets:

OpenAI: The OG, the Coke of Modern AI

Claude: The first copycat, The Pepsi of Modern AI

Mistral: Euro OpenAI

DeepSeek: Chinese OpenAI

Grok/xAI: Republican OpenAI

Google/MSFT: OpenAI clone as a SaaS or Office package.

Meta's Llama: Open Source OpenAI

etc...

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1. nylonstrung ◴[21 May 25 23:15 UTC] No.44057200[source]▶
Deepseek and Mistral are both more open source than Lllama
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2. TZubiri ◴[22 May 25 00:11 UTC] No.44057514[source]▶
Will check it out. I like that we are all on the same page that Openness is a numerical value rather than a boolean, the challenge now is how to measure and define it, especially with ML
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3. kergonath ◴[22 May 25 05:56 UTC] No.44059147[source]▶
Well, Llama’s licence says that I am not allowed to use it. It does not take much to be more open then that.