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320 points mfiguiere | 1 comments | 20 May 25 18:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.223s | source
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charles_f ◴[20 May 25 20:08 UTC] No.44045393[source]▶
This is the kind of pricing that I expect most AI companies are gonna try to push for, and it might get even more expensive with time. When you see the delta between what's currently being burnt by OpenAI and what they bring home, the sweet point is going to be hard to find.

Whether you find that you get $250 worth out of that subscription is going to be the big question

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Wowfunhappy ◴[20 May 25 21:16 UTC] No.44046010[source]▶
> When you see the delta between what's currently being burnt by OpenAI and what they bring home, the sweet point is going to be hard to find.

Moore's law should help as well, shouldn't it? GPUs will keep getting cheaper.

Unless the models also get more GPU hungry, but 2025-level performance, at least, shouldn't get more expensive.

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kllrnohj ◴[20 May 25 23:03 UTC] No.44046799[source]▶
> GPUs will keep getting cheaper. [...] but 2025-level performance, at least, shouldn't get more expensive.

This generation of GPUs have worse performance for more $$$ than the previous generation. At best $/perf has been a flat line for the past few generations. Given what fab realities are nowadays, along with what works best for GPUs (the bigger the die the better), it doesn't seem likely that there will be any price scaling in the near future. Not unless there's some drastic change in fabrication prices from something

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Wowfunhappy ◴[21 May 25 00:17 UTC] No.44047176[source]▶
I mean, I upgraded from a GTX 1080 Ti to a GTX 4080 last summer, and the difference in graphical quality I can get in games is pretty great. That was a multi-generation upgrade, but, when exactly do you think that GPU performance per dollar flat-lined?
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1. kllrnohj ◴[21 May 25 02:51 UTC] No.44047857[source]▶

   1080 Ti -> 2080: 10% faster for same MSRP
   2080 -> 3080: ~70% faster for the same MSRP
   3080 -> 4080: 50% faster, but $700 vs. $1200 is *more than 50% more expensive*
   4080 -> 5080: 10% faster, but $1200 (or $1000 for 4080 Super) vs. $1400-1700 is again more than 10% more money.
So yes your 1080 Ti -> 4080 is a huge leap, but there's basically just 2 reasons why: 1) the price also took a huge leap, and 2) the 20xx -> 30xx series was actually a generational leap, which unfortunately is an outlier as the 20xx series, 40xx series, and 50xx series all were steaming piles of generational shit. Well I guess to be fair to the 20xx, it did at least manage to not regress $/performance like the 40xx and 50xx series did. Barely.