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320 points mfiguiere | 8 comments | 20 May 25 18:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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ir77 ◴[20 May 25 21:06 UTC] No.44045922[source]▶
people here keep saying that this is targeted at big companies/corporations. the big company that i work for explicitly block uploads of data to these services and we're forbidden to put anything company related in there for many reasons, even if you use your own account, we don't have 'company accounts'.

so no, i can't see companies getting all excited about buying $250mo/user licenses for their employees for google or chatgpt to suck in their proprietary data.

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1. verdverm ◴[20 May 25 21:20 UTC] No.44046030[source]▶
These subscriptions explicitly do not suck in your proprietary data, it's all laid out in their ToS.
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2. quantumHazer ◴[20 May 25 22:06 UTC] No.44046415[source]▶
Yeah, and who will make them accountable? How can you verify that they’re noteworthy stealing your data anyways? This companies don’t give a shit about copyright or privacy.
3. ndriscoll ◴[20 May 25 22:17 UTC] No.44046496[source]▶
I don't think I've ever worked somewhere where you wouldn't get fired for sending company data to a party that doesn't have an NDA signed with the company, regardless of whatever ToS they have.
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4. sigmaisaletter ◴[20 May 25 22:20 UTC] No.44046517[source]▶
The same companies who stole... sorry.. fair-used all the worlds artworks and all text on the internet to train their models are now promising you they won't steal...sorry... fair-use your uploaded data?

In unrelated matters, I have a bridge to sell you, if you are interested.

5. verdverm ◴[21 May 25 02:00 UTC] No.44047645[source]▶
What is everyone using GitHub and AWS doing? They certainly all do not have NDAs with their code hosts and cloud providers

It's in their interest to do right by their customers data, otherwise there will be a heap of legal troubles and major reputation hit, both impact bottom line more than training on your data. They can and do in fact make more money by offering to train dedicated models for your company on your data.without bringing that back to their own models.

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6. croes ◴[21 May 25 03:51 UTC] No.44048106[source]▶
They say that, but how would you know if they lie?
7. ndriscoll ◴[21 May 25 16:23 UTC] No.44053133{3}[source]▶
Everywhere I've worked has been strictly on-prem for source code (even when using Github), but I imagine company lawyers get involved with any kind of SaaS procurement? Like as an individual I'm not authorized to agree to any terms with anyone on behalf of my company. I know I've been in sales calls with suppliers where we had to wait for NDAs to be in place on both sides before we could talk.
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8. verdverm ◴[21 May 25 18:55 UTC] No.44054898{4}[source]▶
I can relay that NDAs are very rare in typical saas procurement and that the ToS with data addendums are satisfactory for most people