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don_neufeld ◴[] No.44009004[source]
Completely agree.

From all of my observations, the impact of LLMs on human thought quality appears largely corrosive.

I’m very glad my kid’s school has hardcore banned them. In some class they only allow students to turn in work that was done in class, under the direct observation of the teacher. There has also been a significant increase in “on paper” work vs work done on computer.

Lest you wonder “what does this guy know anyways?”, I’ll share that I grew up in a household where both parents were professors of education.

Understanding the effectiveness of different methods of learning (my dad literally taught Science Methods) were a frequent topic. Active learning (creating things using what you’re learning about) is so much more effective than passive, reception oriented methods. I think LLMs largely are supporting the latter.

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hammock ◴[] No.44010768[source]
> I’m very glad my kid’s school has hardcore banned them.

What does that mean, I’m curious?

The schools and university I grew up in had a “single-sanction honor code” which meant if you were caught lying or cheating even once you would be expelled. And you signed the honor code at the top of every test.

My more progressive friends at other schools who didn’t have an honor code happily poo-pooed it as a repugnantly harsh old fashioned standard. But I don’t see a better way today of enforcing “don’t use AI” in schools, than it.

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1. StefanBatory ◴[] No.44013992[source]
That's an surprisingly "strict" (in quotes for obvious reason) honor code.

I'm at some uni in Poland, not top tier, but at the same time - not bad either, slighly above average.

The amount of cheating I saw - it's almost mundane. Teachers know this, so do we...

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2. hammock ◴[] No.44015814[source]
It worked. There was still cheating (caught and uncaught), but 50-100x less than what I saw at other schools.

And it gave students a sense of pride in their education