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Getting AI to write good SQL

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mykowebhn ◴[] No.44013449[source]
I understand from a technical POV how this could be considered great news.

But I don't see how this is good news at all from a societal POV.

The last 15 or so years has seen an unprecedented rise in salaries for engineers, especially software engineers. This has brought an interest in the profession from people who would normally not have considered SW as a profession. I think this is both good and bad. It has brought new found wealth to more people, but it may have also diluted the quality of the talent pool. That said, I think it was mostly good.

Now with this game-changing efficiency from these AI tools, I'm sure we've seen an end to the glory days in terms of salaries for the SW profession.

With this gone, where else could relatively normal people achieve financial independence? Definitely not in the service industry.

Very sad.

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user3939382 ◴[] No.44013653[source]
I can’t reconcile statements like this with my experience trying to code with LLMs. As soon as there’s any real complexity they spit out nonsense broken code that in some cases could take a long time to debug. Then when you correct it “You’re totally right, I’ll change it so that x y z”. If you weren’t a senior dev with loads of experience you wouldn’t be able to debug or correct the code these tools produce.
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1. mykowebhn ◴[] No.44013680[source]
If you were a new dev now learning the ropes, with these AI coding tools available, I highly doubt you would gain the same "loads of experience".

Learning comes through struggle and it's too easy to bypass that struggle now. It's so much easier to get the answers from AI.

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2. MonkeyClub ◴[] No.44015284[source]
> Learning comes through struggle

I often find myself repeating this, although one would think it's well-known or even self-evident.

If there's no active struggle, there's no remaining knowledge, it's just fleeting information.