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Getting AI to write good SQL

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478 points richards | 4 comments | 16 May 25 21:10 UTC | HN request time: 0.599s | source
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wewewedxfgdf ◴[16 May 25 23:38 UTC] No.44010757[source]▶
Can I just say that Google AI Studio with latest Gemini is stunningly, amazingly, game changingly impressive.

It leaves Claude and ChatGPT's coding looking like they are from a different century. It's hard to believe these changes are coming in factors of weeks and months. Last month i could not believe how good Claude is. Today I'm not sure how I could continue programming without Google Gemini in my toolkit.

Gemini AI Studio is such a giant leap ahead in programming I have to pinch myself when I'm using it.

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CuriouslyC ◴[17 May 25 00:08 UTC] No.44010923[source]▶
I'm really surprised more people haven't caught on. Claude can one shot small stuff of similar complexity, but as soon as you start to really push the model into longer, more involved use cases Gemini pulls way ahead. The context handling is so impressive, in addition to using it for coding agents, I use Gemini as a beta reader for a fairly long manuscript (~85k words) and it absolutely nails it, providing a high level report that's comparable to what a solid human beta reader would provide in seconds.
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snthpy ◴[17 May 25 10:46 UTC] No.44013373[source]▶
I also used it to "vibe write" a short story. I use it similarly to vibe coding, I give the theme and structure of the story along with the major sections and tensions and conflicts I want to express and then it filled in the words in my chosen style. I also created an editor persona and then we went back and forth between the editor and writer personas to refine the story.

The Omega Directive: https://snth.prose.sh/the_omega_directive

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1. CuriouslyC ◴[17 May 25 11:19 UTC] No.44013489[source]▶
My writing process is a bit different from my coding process with AI, it's more of an iterative refinement process.

I tend to form the story arc in my head, and outline the major events in a timeline, and create very short summaries of important scenes, then use AI to turn those summaries into rough narrative outlines by asking me questions and then using my answers to fill in the details.

Next I'll feed that abbreviated manuscript into AI and brainstorm as to what's missing/where the flow could use improvement/etc with no consideration for prose quality, and start filling in gaps with new scenes until I feel like I have a compelling rough outline.

Then I just plow from beginning to end rewriting each chapter, first with AI to do a "beta" draft, then I rewrite significant chunks by hand to make things really sharp.

After this is done I'll feed the manuscript back into AI and get it to beta read given my target audience profile and ambitions for the book, and ask it to provide me feedback on how I can improve the book. Then I start editing based on this, occasionally adding/deleting scenes or overhauling ones that don't quite work based on a combination of my and AI's estimation. When Gemini starts telling me it can't think of much to improve the manuscript that's when it's time for human beta readers.

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2. snthpy ◴[17 May 25 11:42 UTC] No.44013585[source]▶
Thank you for sharing that. I'm going to try that up to "then I rewrite significant chunks by hand to make things really sharp". I'm not a writer a would have never dreamed of writing anything until I gave this a try. I've often had ideas for stories though and using Gemini to bring these to "paper" has felt like a superpower similar how it must feel for people who can't code but now can able to create apps thanks to AI. I think it's a really exciting time!

I've been wondering about what the legalities of the generated content are though since we know that a lot of the artistic source content was used without consent?C an I put the stories on my blog? Or, not that I wanted to, publish them? I guess people use AI generated code everywhere so I guess for practical purposes the cat is out the bag and won't be put back in again.

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3. CuriouslyC ◴[17 May 25 11:54 UTC] No.44013648[source]▶
If you've put manual work into curating and assembling AI output, you have copyright. It's only not copyrightable if you had the AI one shot something.
4. priceofmemory ◴[17 May 25 12:40 UTC] No.44013865[source]▶
That sounds very similar to my AI vibe writing process. Start with chapter outlines, then ask AI to fill in the details for each scene. Then ask AI to point out any plot holes or areas for improvement in the chapter (with relation to other chapters). Then go through chapter by chapter for a second rewrite doing the same thing. At ~100k words for a fan-fiction novel but expect to be at about 120k words after this latest rewrite.

https://frypatch.github.io/The-Price-of-Remembering/