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259 points rbanffy | 7 comments | 16 May 25 09:42 UTC | HN request time: 1.087s | source | bottom
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pjmlp ◴[16 May 25 12:27 UTC] No.44004601[source]▶
On the other news, Microsoft dumped the whole faster Python team, apparently the 2025 earnings weren't enough to keep the team around.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mdboom_its-been-a-tough-coupl...

Lets see whatever performance improvements still land on CPython, unless other company sponsors the work.

I guess Facebook (no need to correct me on the name) is still sponsoring part of it.

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rich_sasha ◴[16 May 25 12:50 UTC] No.44004845[source]▶
Ah that's very, very sad. I guess they have embraced and extended, there's only one thing left to do.
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stusmall ◴[16 May 25 14:19 UTC] No.44005839[source]▶
That shows a misunderstanding of what EEE was. This team was sending changes upstream which is the exact opposite of "extend" step of the strategy. The idea of "extend" was to add propriety extensions on top of an open standard/project locking customers into the MSFT implementation.
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jerrygenser ◴[16 May 25 15:02 UTC] No.44006353[source]▶
Ok so a better example of what you describe might be vscode.
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1. nothrabannosir ◴[16 May 25 15:17 UTC] No.44006499[source]▶
What existing open standard did vscode Embrace? I thought Microsoft created v0 themselves.

A classic example is ActiveX.

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2. biorach ◴[16 May 25 15:23 UTC] No.44006590[source]▶
> A classic example is ActiveX.

Nah, even that was based on earlier MS technologies - OLE and COM

A good starter list of EEE plays is on the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

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3. nothrabannosir ◴[16 May 25 16:21 UTC] No.44007246[source]▶
Funny you linked that page because that’s where I got activex from :D

> Examples by Microsoft

> Browser incompatibilities

> The plaintiffs in an antitrust case claimed Microsoft had added support for ActiveX controls in the Internet Explorer Web browser to break compatibility with Netscape Navigator, which used components based on Java and Netscape's own plugin system.

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4. biorach ◴[16 May 25 16:26 UTC] No.44007297{3}[source]▶
ah ok, sorry. I thought you were saying that they tried an EEE play on ActiveX.

You meant they used ActiveX in an EEE play in the browser wars.

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5. nothrabannosir ◴[16 May 25 21:43 UTC] No.44010029{4}[source]▶
Honestly I kept it vague because I didn't actually know so your call-out was totally valid. I know it better now than without your clarification so thanks :+1:
6. JacobHenner ◴[16 May 25 21:51 UTC] No.44010084[source]▶
VSCode displaced Atom, pre-GitHub acquisition, by building on top of Atom's rendering engine Electron.
7. nyanpasu64 ◴[16 May 25 23:31 UTC] No.44010717[source]▶
Microsoft "embraced" open-source ecosystems with an "open-source" editor, extended it with proprietary extensions DRMed to binary blobs hidden in VS Code binary builds, and used it to extinguish SSH, Python, C++, etc. development in open-source and derivative works of VS Code.