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modeless ◴[] No.43998293[source]
I have been receiving regular spear phishing calls from these guys, or someone who bought the leaked data, with classic tactics like claiming that I need to confirm a potentially fraudulent transaction. They speak perfect English with an American accent, sound very friendly, and have knowledge of your account balance. Thankfully on the first call I realized it was a scam right away, and Google's call screening feature takes good care of the rest. Wish I could forward them to Kitboga[1].

I guess they didn't have as much luck as they wanted scamming Coinbase's customers, and once they had their fun they decided to try extorting Coinbase themselves.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNziOoXDBeg

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panarky ◴[] No.43998551[source]
If you had any significant assets on Coinbase at any time prior to this breach, spear phishing is the least of your worries.

Coinbase not only leaked your full name and address, they also gave up your balances, your transaction history, and images of your government identification.

People with "significant" crypto balances are being assaulted on the street and in their own homes, and family members are being kidnapped for ransom.

"Significant" in this case can be $10k or less.

Until now, your best defense secrecy. Never talk about crypto in public in any way that could be traced to your real-world identity.

Thanks to Coinbase that defense is now gone.

The bad guys can see who has ever had a significant balance on Coinbase (even if they don't right now), whether that balance was sold for cash and how much, or if you've ever transferred tokens off the exchange to a self-custody wallet.

Now the bad guys know who's worth kidnapping for ransom and where you live. For most people, a Google search of your name and home address turns up the names of family members who would would also be lucrative targets for kidnapping and threats of violence.

Coinbase will never be forced to reimburse all the damage they've done because the true cost would bankrupt the company.

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aeternum ◴[] No.43999840[source]
Why do you see this as the fault of Coinbase? Do other companies somehow have employees that are immune to bribes and blackmail?

This is due to US Government KYC laws that forced Coinbase to associate government identification with all accounts. No crypto company required ID until they were forced to.

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panarky ◴[] No.43999986[source]
The US Government didn't provide high-volume, bulk access to this extremely sensitive information to contractors in foreign countries with no controls over their ability to mass-exfiltrate the data.

Coinbase is the entity that set up this dangerous system.

Coinbase did it because it was cheap for them, not because they were being trustworthy custodians of information that put their customers at risk.

Sure, yes, obviously every company's employees and contractors are vulnerable to bribes and blackmail. That's why a trustworthy, competent custodian would establish systems and controls to prevent bribed and blackmailed insiders from mass-exfiltrating information that could get their customers killed.

The fact that other companies manage to be trustworthy, competent custodians while Coinbase doesn't is not the fault of KYC.

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1. aeternum ◴[] No.44000426[source]
Fair enough, and it does sound like they had limits given that not all customer data was exfiltrated but those limits were probably far too high at tens of thousands affected.