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717 points surprisetalk | 2 comments | 15 May 25 02:57 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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l33tbro ◴[15 May 25 03:34 UTC] No.43991582[source]▶
Doesn't really make much sense. It states that this is a purely mechanistic world with no emotion. So why would a machine be "bored" and wish to create a human?
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pazimzadeh ◴[15 May 25 03:42 UTC] No.43991626[source]▶
yeah, more on the environmental constraints and where the machines even come from would be nice

> There is no emotion. There is no art. There is only logic

also this type of pure humanism seems disrespectful or just presumptuous, as if we are the only species which might be capable of "emotion, art and logic" even though we already have living counterexamples

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IAmGraydon ◴[15 May 25 04:03 UTC] No.43991739[source]▶
Disrespectful? Of whom? It's a work of fiction. There's really no need to find something to offend you wherever you look.
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pazimzadeh ◴[15 May 25 06:22 UTC] No.43992333[source]▶
of other animals

but yeah I'm not sure that was the right word, just seems wrong. basically humanism seems like racism but towards other species. I guess speciesist?

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lukas099 ◴[15 May 25 07:19 UTC] No.43992618[source]▶
My take was that other animals didn’t exist either, in the story.
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1. pazimzadeh ◴[15 May 25 10:57 UTC] No.43993699{3}[source]▶
well the story makes it seem like the only way to get emotion is by making humans. but every vertebrate has basic emotions. mammals and birds have complex emotions. humans are actually logical and emotions don't just happen randomly.

if the machines have no emotion it's probably because they didn't need them to survive (no predators? no natural selection?). which begs the questions, how did the machines get there?

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2. pixl97 ◴[15 May 25 16:02 UTC] No.43996409[source]▶
>how did the machines get there?

Instead of a Boltzmann brain, a Boltzmann machine?