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AmazingTurtle ◴[] No.43983064[source]
We feel your pain at Nextcloud. Our team at Everfind (unified search across Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.) has spent the past year fighting for the *drive.readonly* scope simply so we can download files, run OCR, and index their full-text for users. Google keeps telling us to make do with *drive.file* + *drive.metadata.readonly*, which breaks continuous discovery and cripples search results for any new or updated document.

Bottom line: Googles "least-privilege" rhetoric sounds noble, but in practice it gives Big Tech first-party apps privileged access while forcing independent vendors to ship half-working products - or get kicked out of the Play Store. The result is users lose features and choices, and small devs burn countless hours arguing with a copy-paste policy bot.

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stavros ◴[] No.43985478[source]
As a user, this should be up to me to decide, not up to Google. However, I do find it odd that Apple can get away with it much more, because Apple's customers generally have more of a "save us from ourselves" mentality.
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devmor ◴[] No.43987486[source]
>Apple's customers generally have more of a "save us from ourselves" mentality.

FWIW, this could also be described as a "My phone is a tool and not a hobby project" mentality. That is half of what prompted me to change daily drivers from Android to iOS.

I do not get as much freedom for my apps to do whatever I want - but I don't need to do as much work vetting developers or tinkering either. It's a tradeoff of time priority.

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1. franga2000 ◴[] No.43992554[source]
This is not about tinkering. My phone is a toolbox, the apps are the tools and Google keeps breaking them in order to make their tools seem better. I need to get real work done using my phone and being able to sync files with a server is a critical part of that. I can't use Google Drive instead for many reasons, but that's besides the point, because this is illegal anticompetitive behaviour.

As far as I know, Apple also doesn't let you sync folders like this, so that's not a solution. And regardless, Apple cripples many other tools that I rely on.

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2. Klonoar ◴[] No.43993876[source]
Your use case is not tinkering. For many others it undoubtedly is.

The person you’re responding to is seemingly just pushing back on the weird idea that iOS users don’t have technical acumen or whatever.