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681 points mikerg87 | 25 comments | 13 May 25 11:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.834s | source | bottom
1. silisili ◴[15 May 25 04:25 UTC] No.43991827[source]▶
I'm not sure how younger folks would feel seeing this...perhaps that it's ugly, less useful, sparse. And they'd be a bit right.

But for me this was a hit of pure nostalgia, flipping item to item. Almost like looking through an old photo album of memories you'd forgotten years back. Thanks Neal for putting it together.

Slightly fun fact - the original Space Jam site stayed intact until 2021!

https://web.archive.org/web/20210105185246/https://www.space...

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2. al_borland ◴[15 May 25 04:59 UTC] No.43991988[source]▶
They actually left the original Space Jam site up. I think the developers knew its importance.

https://www.spacejam.com/1996/

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3. silisili ◴[15 May 25 05:15 UTC] No.43992061[source]▶
Nice! Never knew that. I wish more companies with popular sites did this. I'm sure it cost them about no money nor time to just shovel it off like this.
4. Lammy ◴[15 May 25 05:24 UTC] No.43992098[source]▶
>look inside

>Google Analytics

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5. dag11 ◴[15 May 25 05:29 UTC] No.43992133[source]▶
Oh man I forgot all about <frameset> and <frame> tags to create navigation. From the early days before we had dynamic sites or static site generators with templates, we had our browsers do our "templating" for us!
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6. reddalo ◴[15 May 25 06:27 UTC] No.43992362{3}[source]▶
They moved everything under /1996 when the new movie came out, and while doing so they broke some pages.
7. yawnxyz ◴[15 May 25 06:44 UTC] No.43992452[source]▶
I love how the new Space Jam website is ALSO in the 90's style! https://www.spacejam.com/2021/
8. slyall ◴[15 May 25 06:49 UTC] No.43992476[source]▶
They managed to break https://www.spacejam.com/ though. It redirects to https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/ which has a bad cert and then goes into a redirect loop.

So broken after just 4 years

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9. genewitch ◴[15 May 25 06:52 UTC] No.43992490{3}[source]▶
Hey give Disney a break they're a small company with only a few employees. Maybe tbe certifier is on vacation.
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10. Thorrez ◴[15 May 25 10:55 UTC] No.43993691{3}[source]▶
Hmm, I didn't get a redirect https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/
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11. shakna ◴[15 May 25 11:27 UTC] No.43993881{4}[source]▶
I got the loop in both desktop Chrome and Firefox, as well as Android Chrome, Brave and Firefox (though these timed out after a few loops, unlike the desktop).

Were you maybe on Safari/iOS?

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12. backspace_ ◴[15 May 25 11:59 UTC] No.43994088{4}[source]▶
Looney toons is a Warner Brothers property, not Disney.
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13. Workaccount2 ◴[15 May 25 14:03 UTC] No.43995217[source]▶
I never particularly liked 50's or 60's aesthetic, and always puzzled over how my parents could gush so hard over it.

Now, I totally get it.

14. a57721 ◴[15 May 25 14:06 UTC] No.43995243{4}[source]▶
http://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/ responds with "HTTP 301, Location: https://www.spacejam.com/"
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15. JKCalhoun ◴[15 May 25 15:05 UTC] No.43995816[source]▶
A photo album that gets more and more depressing.
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16. silisili ◴[15 May 25 15:51 UTC] No.43996299[source]▶
If your album is roughly chronological like mine... watching the kids grow up, yourself and your spouse get fatter and grayer....they -do- get more and more depressing :).
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17. JKCalhoun ◴[15 May 25 18:04 UTC] No.43997616{3}[source]▶
Yeah, so like life I guess. :-(

(Although you may have read recently as I have that 50 years old seems to be peak happiness for people self-reporting happiness.)

18. dowager_dan99 ◴[15 May 25 18:22 UTC] No.43997795{3}[source]▶
frameset was THE basis for building manual-style resources back in the day!

* nav header; search (if you could figure out how to make it work)

* Table of contents

* main content pane

fun times!

19. causality0 ◴[15 May 25 18:35 UTC] No.43997931[source]▶
I found having to keep backtracking because one swipe advanced two or three screens to be very annoying.
20. genewitch ◴[15 May 25 18:36 UTC] No.43997934{5}[source]▶
I wasn't thinking. you are of course correct. My brain conflated because both are based in burbank. yeah, that's what i am going with.
21. Thorrez ◴[16 May 25 05:45 UTC] No.44002165{5}[source]▶
Sorry, my previous comment omitted a word. I meant to say "I didn't get a redirect to https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/ ".

slyall claimed to be redirected to https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/ .

22. Thorrez ◴[16 May 25 05:46 UTC] No.44002174{5}[source]▶
I visited https://www.spacejam.com/ with Chrome on Windows, Firefox on Windows, and Chrome on Android. It didn't redirect for any of them.
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23. shakna ◴[16 May 25 10:54 UTC] No.44003842{6}[source]▶
The loop most definitely exists. It's rather odd you're not seeing it. Everything I can use to talk to the server gets the 301/302 redirects.

Using yet another machine and curl:

    curl -vvv --insecure https://spacejam.com
     < HTTP/2 301 
     < date: Fri, 16 May 2025 10:45:08 GMT
     < content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
     < content-length: 233
     < location: https://www.spacejam.com/
     < server: nginx
     < cache-control: max-age=600
     < expires: Fri, 16 May 2025 10:51:34 GMT
     < 
     <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
     <html><head>
     <title>301 Moved Permanently</title>
     </head><body>
     <h1>Moved Permanently</h1>
     <p>The document has moved <a href="https://www.spacejam.com/">here</a>.</p>
     </body></html>
     ...
     \* Connection #0 to host www.spacejamanewlegacy.net left intact

    curl -vvv --insecure www.spacejamanewlegacy.net
     < HTTP/1.1 302 Found
     < Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 10:46:53 GMT
     < Server: Apache/2.4.62 () OpenSSL/1.0.2k-fips
     < X-Powered-By: PHP/8.0.30
     < Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=15768000
     < Upgrade: h2,h2c
     < Connection: Upgrade
     < Location: https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/
     < Transfer-Encoding: chunked
     < Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
     \* Connection #0 to host www.spacejam.com left intact
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24. Thorrez ◴[17 May 25 06:08 UTC] No.44012352{7}[source]▶
Your request to https://spacejam.com is redirected to https://www.spacejam.com/ .

Your request to http://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net is redirected to https://www.spacejamanewlegacy.net/ .

You never tried making a request to https://www.spacejam.com/ .

Go to https://reqbin.com/ and enter https://spacejam.com . It gives 1 redirect (to https://www.spacejam.com/ ) then HTML.

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25. shakna ◴[17 May 25 22:58 UTC] No.44017632{8}[source]▶
I think you missed which servers are connected at the end of which request, there.

Reqbin receives an upgrade request to HTTP2, that it never follows.