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Changes since congestion pricing started in New York

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437 points Vinnl | 8 comments | 13 May 25 10:43 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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fundaThree ◴[14 May 25 21:24 UTC] No.43989379[source]▶
I thought Hochul ratfucked this initiative for no apparent reason. What was the reason she gave for not ratfucking it a second time?
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1. listenallyall ◴[14 May 25 22:00 UTC] No.43989654[source]▶
This guy is so cool, he uses the word "ratfucked"! Twice! Not just "fucked", but "ratfucked". Of course, congestion pricing was in fact implemented and remains in effect, so maybe not entirely "ratfucked"? Guess I'm not cool enough to understand. And because of his choice of words, people who are unfamiliar with this project don't even know what action(s) Kathy Hochul actually took that was/were detrimental.
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2. fundaThree ◴[14 May 25 22:06 UTC] No.43989698[source]▶
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratfucking

I honestly have no clue what beef you have with me, or if you even disagree, but thanks for calling me cool.

> What was the reason she gave for not ratfucking it a second time?

Still waiting on an answer that it seems you might be capable of providing rather than acting like a dick

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3. Demiurge ◴[14 May 25 22:09 UTC] No.43989710[source]▶
Perhaps it's a social sign for being one of the NYC local. They also referred to a person by a single name, further emphasizing they were speaking to the select few who would know what they were talking about.

If only they could also write with a heavy NYC accent, their comment would be even cooler. Forget about it.

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4. fundaThree ◴[14 May 25 22:10 UTC] No.43989718[source]▶
I live in DC
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5. Demiurge ◴[14 May 25 22:17 UTC] No.43989758{3}[source]▶
That's interesting. It must be that I associate rats with NYC. You used some terms that not everyone is familair with, I jump to the wrong conclusion, taking some guesses as to what you're talking about, and here we are.
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6. singleshot_ ◴[14 May 25 22:31 UTC] No.43989864{4}[source]▶
ratfucking as a term in political context was dramatically popularized by the movie All the President’s Men, where a (historical) character describes his covert political actions thusly.

Accordingly, it’s a dc

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7. highpost ◴[14 May 25 22:49 UTC] No.43989990[source]▶
My guess is that she lacks the essential political skill of reading the room. It's not like NYC is the first city to attempt congestion pricing. Anyone who has spent any time in London can see its benefits. So I think Hochul had her political focus on the wrong things.

It took a lot of time and effort to bring the stakeholders together for congestion pricing. And to withhold her approval at the last moment was shocking. It's hard to imagine what she was really thinking and even harder to understand how she felt she would be rewarded for it. That's not a real answer to your question, but her reasoning on both congestion pricing and Eric Adams just seems opaque.

8. singleshot_ ◴[15 May 25 00:36 UTC] No.43990643{5}[source]▶
Term, not one I would ordinarily associate with an actual rat infestation or with NYc.