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tw04 ◴[] No.43983258[source]
This is the thing that bummed me out the most about Microsoft exiting the phone market.

I know Windows isn’t super popular around here, but the idea of carrying one device that I can just dock to work on always intrigued me.

There’s just no way this is taking off with any significant market share in the business world anytime soon being android only, and Apple will never adopt it because they want you to buy 3 different devices. Such a great concept, and with the performance of mobile chips getting so good, very viable.

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maratc ◴[] No.43983489[source]
The problem with this idea is that it's unattainable.

Let's start with something simpler: a living room. There's no universal design that would fit just any living room. The layout and the set of furniture that would work for my living room will not work for yours. Size, shape, windows, doors, connection to other spaces - everything matters. If you want a great design for your living room, you literally need to start from your specific living room.

There's a great idea -- why don't we come with a resizable (reflowable?) design that could fit any living room in the world? While this idea might be entertaining for an engineer's mind, it doesn't work in practice, unless you can settle for just a mediocre design.

Also, being intellectually honest, we need to attack the strongest Apple we can imagine, not a weak Apple that's easy for us to attack. And that strongest Apple will never adopt this idea because they aim to design the best computer/phone/tablet that they can, and in order to design that they need to start with the computer/phone/tablet.

The idea of a phone connecting to a display/keyboard/mouse and becoming a computer has the problem that you could either optimize your design for what you have with a phone, or for what you have with a display and peripherals. It will never be as good as the system designed from the ground up to be just a single thing. It's always nice to have options, but there won't be any mass adoption for the mediocre combo. It was dead in the water with Palm Foleo in 2007, it's just as dead in the water 18 years later.

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apitman ◴[] No.43984603[source]
You don't have to degrade the phone experience at all. Just add a Linux VM that it switches to when I plug it into a monitor and has access to my files and we're good.
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cosmic_cheese ◴[] No.43985629[source]
To me, something along these lines is by far the best approach. Under Android, a Linux desktop could be virtualized on top of Android’s Linux kernel and under iOS, a macOS userland could be virtualized on top of iOS’ Darwin underpinnings.

It’s the only way you don’t end up compromising either half of the experience too much. Trying to converge both into a single UI as Microsoft previously did with Windows and GNOME is now trying to do now is a recipe for failure.

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1. apitman ◴[] No.43986207[source]
All the plumbing is all there[0].

Here's hoping they hook it up so we can use it.

[0]: https://www.androidpolice.com/android-15-linux-terminal-app/